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From: Robert Richter <rric@kernel.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Jean Pihet <jean.pihet@linaro.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Tomasz Nowicki <tomasz.nowicki@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/16] perf, persistent: Add persistent events
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 18:44:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140507164407.GG32718@rric.localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140506185359.GE25013@pd.tnic>

On 06.05.14 20:53:59, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 02:39:07PM +0200, Robert Richter wrote:
> > Events could also be shared transparently. This means, if there is
> > already an event running with the same attr, it could be reused. Not
> > sure if this makes sense much and is also feasible. Most events are
> > opened with writable buffers and thus can not be shared anyway.
> 
> Well, this is simple: sharing events implicitly says they're read-only -
> you can't share them otherwise. If you want the buffers to be writable,
> then the events cannot be shared.
> 
> I think this is nicely simple.

With transparently I mean that the process even does not know that the
same event is already running by another process. The kernel detects
this and maps the request to that event and buffer. Of course the
event's buffer must be at least readonly to be shared for this.

This could be a mechanism to connect to persistent events. The kernel
detects by type and attr that the requested event is already running
persistent and maps to it.

But at the moment persistent events can only be shared using

 attr.type = PERF_TYPE_PERSISTENT
 attr.config = id

So the above is more an alternative to connect to persistent events
and the question is, which one to use. Presumable the easiest first,
which is the current implementation.

-Robert

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-07 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-07 15:04 [PATCH v4 00/16] perf, persistent: Add persistent events Jean Pihet
2014-04-07 15:04 ` [PATCH 01/16] perf, mmap: Factor out ring_buffer_detach_all() Jean Pihet
2014-04-07 15:04 ` [PATCH 02/16] perf, mmap: Factor out try_get_event()/put_event() Jean Pihet
2014-04-07 15:04 ` [PATCH 03/16] perf, mmap: Factor out perf_alloc/free_rb() Jean Pihet
2014-04-22 14:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-07 15:04 ` [PATCH 04/16] perf, mmap: Factor out perf_get_fd() Jean Pihet
2014-04-22 14:27   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-25 13:54     ` Robert Richter
2014-04-25 14:43       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-25 14:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-29 15:34           ` Robert Richter
2014-04-07 15:04 ` [PATCH 05/16] perf: Add persistent events Jean Pihet
2014-04-07 15:04 ` [PATCH 06/16] mce, x86: Enable " Jean Pihet
2014-04-07 15:04 ` [PATCH 07/16] perf, persistent: Implementing a persistent pmu Jean Pihet
2014-04-07 15:04 ` [PATCH 08/16] perf, persistent: Exposing persistent events using sysfs Jean Pihet
2014-04-07 15:04 ` [PATCH 09/16] perf, persistent: Use unique event ids Jean Pihet
2014-04-07 15:04 ` [PATCH 10/16] perf, persistent: Implement reference counter for events Jean Pihet
2014-04-07 15:04 ` [PATCH 11/16] perf, persistent: Dynamically resize list of sysfs entries Jean Pihet
2014-04-07 15:04 ` [PATCH 12/16] perf, persistent: ioctl functions to control persistency Jean Pihet
2014-04-07 15:04 ` [PATCH 13/16] perf tools: Rename flex conditions to avoid name conflicts Jean Pihet
2014-04-07 15:04 ` [PATCH 14/16] perf tools: Modify event parser to update event attribute by index Jean Pihet
2014-04-07 15:04 ` [PATCH 15/16] perf tools: Add attr<num> syntax to event parser Jean Pihet
2014-04-07 15:04 ` [PATCH 16/16] perf tools: Retry mapping buffers readonly on EACCES Jean Pihet
2014-04-17 12:44 ` [PATCH v4 00/16] perf, persistent: Add persistent events Jean Pihet
2014-04-17 12:50   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-17 13:17     ` Jean Pihet
2014-04-17 13:21       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-22  8:20         ` Jean Pihet
2014-04-22 10:07           ` Jean Pihet
2014-04-22 10:20             ` Borislav Petkov
2014-05-06 12:39 ` Robert Richter
2014-05-06 18:50   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-05-06 18:53   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-05-07 16:44     ` Robert Richter [this message]
2014-05-08 18:23       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-05-09  9:17         ` Robert Richter
2014-05-06 18:58   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-05-07 17:01     ` Robert Richter
2014-05-08 18:36       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-05-09  8:52         ` Robert Richter
2014-05-09 10:17       ` Borislav Petkov

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