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From: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Salman Qazi <sqazi@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>, Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.cz>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Subject: Re: 64bit x86: NMI nesting still buggy?
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 16:58:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140521145857.GA5880@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140521142055.GH21205@pd.tnic>

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 04:20:55PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 03:42:24PM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> > Alright, Andy's iret optimization efforts do immediately bring a
> > followup question -- why is this not a problem with iret-based return
> > from #MC possibly interrupting NMI?
> 
> Yeah, and frankly, I don't see this nesting fun at all protected against
> a #MC interrupting it at any point actually. Because once the #MC
> handler returns, it goes into paranoid_exit and that place doesn't
> account for NMIs at all, AFAICS.
> 
> Which would mean:
> 
> * NMI goes off
> * MCE happens, we switch to machine_check which is paranoidzeroentry
> * #MC handler is done -> paranoid_exit -> IRET
> -> boom! Or if not "boom", at least, the NMI gets forgotten.
> 
> Am I missing something?

I think to get a full BOOM you need a bit more complex process, namely:

	* NMI triggered
	* NMI handler starts
	* MCE happens
	* Second NMI triggered and queued
	* handler done, IRET
	* Second NMI handler starts and overwrites NMI return address on stack
	* Second NMI handler ends
	* First NMI handler ends and goes into an infinite IRET loop, always
	  returning to the beginning of itself

But you do have all the ingredients.

And I don't see any other way out than not calling IRET for MCEs.

-- 
Vojtech Pavlik
Director SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-21 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-29 13:05 64bit x86: NMI nesting still buggy? Jiri Kosina
2014-04-29 13:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-29 14:06   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-29 14:28     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-29 14:31   ` Petr Tesarik
2014-04-30 22:10   ` Jiri Kosina
2014-04-30 22:46     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-29 14:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-29 15:24   ` Jiri Kosina
2014-04-29 15:41     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2014-04-29 16:09     ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-29 16:19       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-29 16:51       ` Jiri Kosina
2014-04-29 17:12         ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-29 18:48           ` Jiri Kosina
2014-04-29 19:16             ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-06 10:02     ` Ingo Molnar
2014-05-21 13:42   ` Jiri Kosina
2014-05-21 14:20     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-05-21 14:58       ` Vojtech Pavlik [this message]
2014-05-21 15:22         ` Andy Lutomirski

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