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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@parisc-linux.org>,
	Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	John David Anglin <dave.anglin@bell.net>,
	Parisc List <linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Vinod, Chegu" <chegu_vinod@hp.com>,
	Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@hp.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>, Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"Chandramouleeswaran, Aswin" <aswin@hp.com>,
	"Norton, Scott J" <scott.norton@hp.com>,
	Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] introduce atomic_pointer to fix a race condition in cancelable mcs spinlocks
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 14:03:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140602210348.GF22231@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzwrqkwD=G=w2m7TdXTpsMFjV7XUMXv5DMPGr=5x5YGCQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 10:09:35AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > And I can't say I'm a particular fan of these ops either, as alternative
> > I'm almost inclined to just exclude parisc from using opt spinning.
> 
> Please do.
> 
> There is no way in hell that we should introduce a magic new
> atomic_pointer thing for parisc. And the idea somebody had to change
> ACCESS_ONCE() for PA-RISC (I'm not going to go back to find who to
> blame) is just horribly wrong too, since it's not even necessary for
> any normal use: the special "load-and-store-zero" instruction isn't
> actually used for "real" data, it's used only for the special
> spinlocks afaik, so doing it for all ACCESS_ONCE() users would be
> wrong even on PA-RISC. For any normal data, the usual "just load the
> value, making sure the compiler doesn't reload it" is perfectly fine -
> even on PA-RISC.

Guilty to charges as read on suggesting PA-RISC-specific ACCESS_ONCE().  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul

> Now, if PA-RISC was a major architecture, we'd have to figure this
> out. But as it is, PA-RISC is just about the shittiest RISC ever
> invented (with original sparc being a strong contender), and let's
> face it, nobody really uses it.  It's a "fun project", but it is not
> something that we should use to mess up either ACCESS_ONCE() or the
> MCS locks.
> 
> Just make PA-RISC use its own locks, not any of the new fancy ones.
> 
>               Linus
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-02 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-01 17:53 [PATCH] fix a race condition in cancelable mcs spinlocks Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-01 19:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-01 20:46   ` John David Anglin
2014-06-01 21:30     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-01 21:46       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02  9:19       ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-02 13:24         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02 15:57           ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-02 16:39             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02 19:56       ` James Bottomley
2014-06-03  7:56         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-04 12:53           ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-02 13:58     ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-02 14:02       ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-02 15:39         ` John David Anglin
2014-06-02 10:34   ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-02 14:14 ` Waiman Long
2014-06-02 15:27   ` Jason Low
2014-06-02 16:00 ` [PATCH v2] introduce atomic_pointer to " Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-02 16:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-02 16:30     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-02 16:46       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02 17:33       ` Waiman Long
2014-06-02 20:05         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-02 20:22           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-06-02 21:02             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02 21:12               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-06-02 22:08                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02 22:44                   ` Eric Dumazet
2014-06-02 23:17                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02 23:53                       ` Eric Dumazet
2014-06-03  0:28                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02 22:55                   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-06-03 16:48                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-03  7:54             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-02 20:24           ` James Bottomley
2014-06-02 16:43     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02 17:14       ` James Bottomley
2014-06-02 17:29       ` Waiman Long
2014-06-02 17:09     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-06-02 17:12       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-06-02 17:42         ` Waiman Long
2014-06-02 20:46       ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-02 20:53         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-06-02 21:12           ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-03  7:36             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03 11:14               ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-03 13:24                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03 14:18                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-03 14:07               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-03 15:09                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03 15:56                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-03  7:20         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-02 21:03       ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-06-06 15:06       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-06 15:15         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-06 15:42         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-06-02 16:50   ` Jason Low
2014-06-02 17:03     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02 17:25     ` Waiman Long
2014-06-02 17:38       ` H. Peter Anvin

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