From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@parisc-linux.org>,
Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
John David Anglin <dave.anglin@bell.net>,
Parisc List <linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Vinod, Chegu" <chegu_vinod@hp.com>,
Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@hp.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>, Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
"Chandramouleeswaran, Aswin" <aswin@hp.com>,
"Norton, Scott J" <scott.norton@hp.com>,
Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] introduce atomic_pointer to fix a race condition in cancelable mcs spinlocks
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 07:07:27 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140603140727.GM22231@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140603073613.GH11096@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 09:36:13AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 05:12:16PM -0400, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > The patch adds atomic_pointer_t for all architectures - it is in the
> > common code and it is backed by atomic_long_t (that already exists for all
> > architectures). There is no new arch-specific code at all.
> >
> > When we have atomic_pointer_t, we can find the instances of xchg() and
> > cmpxchg() and convert them to atomic_pointer_t (or to other atomic*_t
> > types).
> >
> > When we convert them all, we can drop xchg() and cmpxchg() at all (at
> > least from architecture-neutral code).
> >
> > The problem with xchg() and cmpxchg() is that they are very easy to
> > misuse. Peter Zijlstra didn't know that they are not atomic w.r.t. normal
> > stores, a lot of other people don't know it too - and if we allow these
> > functions to be used, this race condition will reappear in the future
> > again and again.
> >
> > That's why I'm proposing atomic_pointer_t - it guarantees that this race
> > condition can't be made.
>
> But its horrible, and doesn't have any benefit afaict.
>
> So if we really want to keep supporting these platforms; I would propose
> something like:
>
> #ifdef __CHECKER__
> #define __atomic __attribute__((address_space(5)))
> #else
> #define __atomic
> #endif
>
> #define store(p, v) (*(p) = (typeof(*(p)) __force __atomic)(v))
> #define load(p) ((typeof(*p) __force)ACCESS_ONCE(*(p)))
>
> Along with changes to xchg() and cmpxchg() that require them to take
> pointers to __atomic.
>
> That way we keep the flexibility of xchg() and cmpxchg() for being
> (mostly) type and size invariant, and get sparse to find wrong usage.
>
> Then parisc, sparc32, tile32, metag-lock1 and arc-!llsc can go implement
> store() however they like.
Should be fun interacting with atomic operations on __rcu variables
(address space 4). Of course, that is already fun...
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-03 15:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-01 17:53 [PATCH] fix a race condition in cancelable mcs spinlocks Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-01 19:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-01 20:46 ` John David Anglin
2014-06-01 21:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-01 21:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02 9:19 ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-02 13:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02 15:57 ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-02 16:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02 19:56 ` James Bottomley
2014-06-03 7:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-04 12:53 ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-02 13:58 ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-02 14:02 ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-02 15:39 ` John David Anglin
2014-06-02 10:34 ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-02 14:14 ` Waiman Long
2014-06-02 15:27 ` Jason Low
2014-06-02 16:00 ` [PATCH v2] introduce atomic_pointer to " Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-02 16:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-02 16:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-02 16:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02 17:33 ` Waiman Long
2014-06-02 20:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-02 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-06-02 21:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02 21:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-06-02 22:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02 22:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-06-02 23:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02 23:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-06-03 0:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02 22:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-06-03 16:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-03 7:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-02 20:24 ` James Bottomley
2014-06-02 16:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02 17:14 ` James Bottomley
2014-06-02 17:29 ` Waiman Long
2014-06-02 17:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-06-02 17:12 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-06-02 17:42 ` Waiman Long
2014-06-02 20:46 ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-02 20:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-06-02 21:12 ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-03 7:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03 11:14 ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-03 13:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03 14:18 ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-06-03 14:07 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-06-03 15:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03 15:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-03 7:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-02 21:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-06 15:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-06 15:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-06 15:42 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-06-02 16:50 ` Jason Low
2014-06-02 17:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-02 17:25 ` Waiman Long
2014-06-02 17:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
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