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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: rientjes@google.com, Motohiro.Kosaki@us.fujitsu.com,
	riel@redhat.com, kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
	fengguang.wu@intel.com, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, hch@infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/vmscan: Do not block forever at shrink_inactive_list().
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 23:17:53 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140605131753.GD4523@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201406052145.CIB35534.OQLVMSJFOHtFOF@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 09:45:26PM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> David Rientjes wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 May 2014, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > 
> > > In shrink_inactive_list(), we do not insert delay at
> > > 
> > >   if (!sc->hibernation_mode && !current_is_kswapd())
> > >     wait_iff_congested(zone, BLK_RW_ASYNC, HZ/10);
> > > 
> > > if sc->hibernation_mode != 0.
> > > Follow the same reason, we should not insert delay at
> > > 
> > >   while (unlikely(too_many_isolated(zone, file, sc))) {
> > >     congestion_wait(BLK_RW_ASYNC, HZ/10);
> > > 
> > >     /* We are about to die and free our memory. Return now. */
> > >     if (fatal_signal_pending(current))
> > >       return SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX;
> > >   }
> > > 
> > > if sc->hibernation_mode != 0.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
> > > ---
> > >  mm/vmscan.c |    3 +++
> > >  1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> > > index 32c661d..89c42ca 100644
> > > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> > > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> > > @@ -1362,6 +1362,9 @@ static int too_many_isolated(struct zone *zone, int file,
> > >  	if (current_is_kswapd())
> > >  		return 0;
> > >  
> > > +	if (sc->hibernation_mode)
> > > +		return 0;
> > > +
> > >  	if (!global_reclaim(sc))
> > >  		return 0;
> > >  
> > 
> > This isn't the only too_many_isolated() functions that do a delay, how is 
> > the too_many_isolated() in mm/compaction.c different?
> > 
> 
> I don't know. But today I realized that this patch is not sufficient.
> 
> I'm trying to find why __alloc_pages_slowpath() cannot return for many minutes
> when a certain type of memory pressure is given on a RHEL7 environment with
> 4 CPU / 2GB RAM. Today I tried to use ftrace for examining the breakdown of
> time-consuming functions inside __alloc_pages_slowpath(). But on the first run,
> all processes are trapped into this too_many_isolated()/congestion_wait() loop
> while kswapd is not running; stalling forever because nobody can perform
> operations for making too_many_isolated() to return 0.
> 
> This means that, under rare circumstances, it is possible that all processes
> other than kswapd are trapped into too_many_isolated()/congestion_wait() loop
> while kswapd is sleeping because this loop assumes that somebody else shall
> wake up kswapd and kswapd shall perform operations for making
> too_many_isolated() to return 0. However, we cannot guarantee that kswapd is
> waken by somebody nor kswapd is not blocked by blocking operations inside
> shrinker functions (e.g. mutex_lock()).

So what you are saying is that kswapd is having problems with
getting blocked on locks held by processes in direct reclaim?

What are the stack traces that demonstrate such a dependency loop?

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-05 13:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-19 14:40 [PATCH] mm/vmscan: Do not block forever at shrink_inactive_list() Tetsuo Handa
2014-05-19 17:42 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-20  0:44 ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-20  3:54   ` Tetsuo Handa
2014-05-20  5:24     ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-20  5:59   ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-20  6:03     ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-20  6:33       ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-20  6:30     ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-20 14:58       ` Tetsuo Handa
2014-05-20 16:12         ` Motohiro Kosaki
2014-05-26 11:45           ` [PATCH] mm/vmscan: Do not block forever atshrink_inactive_list() Tetsuo Handa
2014-06-03 21:43             ` David Rientjes
2014-06-05 12:45               ` [PATCH] mm/vmscan: Do not block forever at shrink_inactive_list() Tetsuo Handa
2014-06-05 13:17                 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2014-06-06 12:19                   ` [PATCH] mm/vmscan: Do not block forever atshrink_inactive_list() Tetsuo Handa
2014-06-09 11:53                 ` [PATCH] mm/vmscan: Do not block forever at shrink_inactive_list() Tetsuo Handa
2014-07-02 12:40                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2014-05-20  7:20     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-05-20  2:35 ` Jianyu Zhan

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