From: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Henrik Austad <henrik@austad.us>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
"mingo@kernel.org" <mingo@kernel.org>,
"rjw@rjwysocki.net" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
"vincent.guittot@linaro.org" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
"daniel.lezcano@linaro.org" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
"preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <Dietmar.Eggemann@arm.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 02/16] sched: Introduce CONFIG_SCHED_ENERGY
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:41:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140610144100.GD1581@e103034-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140610122435.GG6758@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 01:24:35PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:24:03PM +0100, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:23:53AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:06:41AM +0100, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> > > > How would you like to disable the energy stuff for users for whom
> > > > latency is everything?
> > > >
> > > > I mean, we are adding some extra load/utilization tracking. While I
> > > > think we should do everything possible to minimize the overhead, I think
> > > > it is unrealistic to assume that it will be zero. Is a some extra 'if
> > > > (energy_enabled)' acceptable?
> > > >
> > > > I'm open for other suggestions.
> > >
> > > We have the jump-label stuff to do self modifying code ;-) The only
> > > thing we need to be careful with is data-layout.
> >
> > Thanks. I can see that it is already used in for various bit in
> > kernel/sched/*. I didn't catch anything in Documentation/static-keys.txt
> > related to data-layout caveats. Is there some other
> > documentation/patches I should read before messing everything up? ;-)
>
> So the data-layout was mostly referring to things like making sure that
> struct sched_avg doesn't end up straddling a cacheline somewhere by
> accident.
>
> The most expensive part of the per-task accounting nonsense is the
> amount of memory we need to touch to do so, the actual instructions come
> second, unless of course we go put tons of divisions in there :-)
Make sense.
> BTW, are cachelines 64 bytes for you ARM people too?
Mostly yes, but as with a lot of other things on ARM it is
implementation defined. The cacheline sizes are probeable at runtime,
but for things where we don't know I think 64 bytes is the current
assumption.
Catalin or Will would be able to provide a more detailed answer.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-10 14:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-23 18:16 [RFC PATCH 00/16] sched: Energy cost model for energy-aware scheduling Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 01/16] sched: Documentation for scheduler energy cost model Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-05 8:49 ` Vincent Guittot
2014-06-05 11:35 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-05 15:02 ` Vincent Guittot
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 02/16] sched: Introduce CONFIG_SCHED_ENERGY Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-08 6:03 ` Henrik Austad
2014-06-09 10:20 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-10 9:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-10 10:06 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-10 10:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-10 11:17 ` Henrik Austad
2014-06-10 12:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-10 11:24 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-10 12:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-10 14:41 ` Morten Rasmussen [this message]
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 03/16] sched: Introduce sd energy data structures Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 04/16] sched: Allocate and initialize sched energy Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 05/16] sched: Add sd energy procfs interface Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 06/16] arm: topology: Define TC2 sched energy and provide it to scheduler Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-30 12:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-02 14:15 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-03 11:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-04 13:49 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-03 11:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-04 15:42 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-04 16:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-06 13:15 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-06 13:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-06 14:29 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-12 15:05 ` Vince Weaver
2014-06-03 11:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-04 16:02 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-04 17:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-04 21:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-05 6:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-05 15:03 ` Dirk Brandewie
2014-06-05 20:29 ` Yuyang Du
2014-06-06 8:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-06 0:35 ` Yuyang Du
2014-06-06 10:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-06 12:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-06-06 12:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-06-06 14:11 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-07 2:33 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-09 8:27 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-09 13:22 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-11 11:02 ` Eduardo Valentin
2014-06-11 11:42 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-11 11:43 ` Eduardo Valentin
2014-06-11 13:37 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-07 23:53 ` Yuyang Du
2014-06-07 23:26 ` Yuyang Du
2014-06-09 8:59 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-09 2:15 ` Yuyang Du
2014-06-10 10:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-10 17:01 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-10 18:35 ` Yuyang Du
2014-06-06 16:27 ` Jacob Pan
2014-06-06 13:03 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-07 2:52 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 07/16] sched: Introduce system-wide sched_energy Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 08/16] sched: Introduce SD_SHARE_CAP_STATES sched_domain flag Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 09/16] sched, cpufreq: Introduce current cpu compute capacity into scheduler Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 10/16] sched, cpufreq: Current compute capacity hack for ARM TC2 Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 11/16] sched: Energy model functions Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 12/16] sched: Task wakeup tracking Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 13/16] sched: Take task wakeups into account in energy estimates Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 14/16] sched: Use energy model in select_idle_sibling Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 15/16] sched: Use energy to guide wakeup task placement Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 16/16] sched: Disable wake_affine to broaden the scope of wakeup target cpus Morten Rasmussen
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