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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com>
Cc: Dmitry Kasatkin <d.kasatkin@samsung.com>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Josh Boyer <jwboyer@redhat.com>,
	keyrings <keyrings@linux-nfs.org>,
	linux-security-module <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] KEYS: validate key trust only with selected owner key
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:01:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140612190154.GL9578@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACE9dm9UHixujYR==_ybKZr2gvEFm+gmRMaD-V2aeNQ7J6jQ8w@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 09:36:46PM +0300, Dmitry Kasatkin wrote:
> On 12 June 2014 20:32, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 08:23:57PM +0300, Dmitry Kasatkin wrote:
> >> On 12/06/14 19:03, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:48:17AM +0300, Dmitry Kasatkin wrote:
> >> >> This patch provides kernel parameter to specify owner's key id which
> >> >> must be used for trust validate of keys. Keys signed with other keys
> >> >> are not trusted.
> >> >>
> >> >> Signed-off-by: Dmitry Kasatkin <d.kasatkin@samsung.com>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I am continuing to work on verifying kernel signature for kexec/kdump. I
> >> > am planning to take david howell's patches for pkcs7 signature
> >> > verification and verify bzImage signature.
> >> >
> >> > Part of that process will boil down to verifying a certificate in
> >> > pkcs7 x509 cert chain using a key in system_trusted_keyring.
> >> >
> >> > I think the OS vendor key which signs the kernel signing key propagates to
> >> > system_trusted_keyring. (shim has that and I am not sure how shim makes
> >> > it propogate all they way to system_trusted_keyring).
> >> >
> >> > So I was planning to use same functionality where I look for any key
> >> > which can verify the signing cert of kernel. As OS vendor key will be
> >> > in system_trusted_keyring, it should work.
> >> >
> >> > Now with this change where you will trust only one selected owner key.
> >> > That means you will not even trust the OS vendor key which signs kernel
> >> > signing key. I think this will stop working with  keys_ownerid=<....>
> >> >
> >> > As I am doing that work in parallel and I saw these patches, I thought
> >> > I will bring it up.
> >>
> >> Hi Vivek,
> >>
> >> All keys stays in the keyring. Usage of owner_keyid is limited to
> >> validate the trust of the loaded keys.
> >
> > Hi Dmitry,
> >
> > If owner_keyid scope is just limited to loading extra keys, then it
> > should be fine as I don't want to load extra keys. I just want to
> > verify already signed image whose key is supposed to be in
> > system_trusted_keyring.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Do you really see OS verndor key (Fedora) on the system keyring?
> >> shim is UEFI binary and can add it to the MOK database..
> >
> > I have been told that mechanism to propagate they key in shim which is
> > used to verify kernel signature is in place and that key should show
> > up in system_trusted_keyring. I have never verified it though. I will
> > check it out.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Vivek
> 
> 
> Hi Vivek,
> 
> The easiest way to get OS Vendor ker/certificate is just embed it into
> the kernel along with
> ephemeral (or not) module signing key... They all appears on .system keyring...

I think it will be tricky as in current setup, signing happens on a different
server and build server does not have access to keys.

Thanks
Vivek

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-12 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-03 17:58 [RFC PATCH v5 0/4] ima: extending secure boot certificate chain of trust Mimi Zohar
2014-06-03 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v5 1/4] KEYS: special dot prefixed keyring name bug fix Mimi Zohar
2014-06-06 21:48   ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-06 22:00     ` Mimi Zohar
2014-06-09  7:56       ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-09  8:17         ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-03 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v5 2/4] KEYS: verify a certificate is signed by a 'trusted' key Mimi Zohar
2014-06-06 21:50   ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-09 13:13     ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-09 13:48       ` Mimi Zohar
2014-06-09 14:57         ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-03 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v5 3/4] ima: define '.ima' as a builtin 'trusted' keyring Mimi Zohar
2014-06-06 21:53   ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-06 23:27     ` Mimi Zohar
2014-06-09  8:45       ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-03 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v5 4/4] KEYS: define an owner trusted keyring Mimi Zohar
2014-06-09 12:13   ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-09 12:51     ` Mimi Zohar
2014-06-09 13:05       ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-09 13:48         ` Mimi Zohar
2014-06-09 13:58           ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-09 14:06             ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-09 16:33               ` Mimi Zohar
2014-06-10  8:48                 ` [PATCH 0/4] KEYS: validate key trust with owner and builtin keys only Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-10  8:48                   ` [PATCH 1/4] KEYS: define an owner trusted keyring Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-10 12:24                     ` Josh Boyer
2014-06-10 12:41                       ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-10 13:07                       ` Mimi Zohar
2014-06-10  8:48                   ` [PATCH 2/4] KEYS: fix couple of things Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-10  8:48                   ` [PATCH 3/4] KEYS: validate key trust only with selected owner key Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-12 16:03                     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-12 16:55                       ` Mimi Zohar
2014-06-12 17:00                         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-12 17:17                           ` Mimi Zohar
2014-06-12 17:23                             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-12 17:23                       ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-12 17:32                         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-12 17:37                           ` Mimi Zohar
2014-06-12 18:36                           ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-12 19:01                             ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2014-06-12 19:04                               ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-12 19:05                               ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-12 19:15                                 ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-10  8:48                   ` [PATCH 4/4] KEYS: validate key trust only with builtin keys Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-10 12:20                   ` [PATCH 0/4] KEYS: validate key trust with owner and builtin keys only Josh Boyer
2014-06-10 12:52                     ` Mimi Zohar
2014-06-10 13:21                       ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-10 13:29                         ` Josh Boyer
2014-06-10 14:53                           ` Mimi Zohar
2014-06-10 12:58                     ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-10 15:08                       ` Matthew Garrett
2014-06-10 20:39                     ` Dmitry Kasatkin
     [not found]                     ` <CACE9dm9Ff6b3J=05QfcgBv-c_y=5qGNq1-ZSfo4smtj34i1e-A@mail.gmail.com>
2014-06-10 20:40                       ` Matthew Garrett
2014-06-10 21:00                         ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-10 21:17                           ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-10 21:25                             ` Matthew Garrett
2014-06-10 21:34                               ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-10 21:40                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-06-10 21:45                                   ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-11  1:24                                   ` Mimi Zohar
2014-06-11  2:22                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2014-06-11  3:08                                       ` Mimi Zohar
2014-06-11  3:23                                         ` Matthew Garrett
2014-06-11 12:30                                           ` Mimi Zohar
2014-06-11 15:20                                             ` Matthew Garrett
2014-06-27 14:16                                           ` David Howells
2014-06-10 21:40                                 ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-10 12:45                   ` Mimi Zohar
2014-06-10 12:49                     ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-06-11 20:49                       ` Mimi Zohar

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