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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Dave Anderson <anderson@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.cz>, Kay Sievers <kay@vrfy.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/11] printk: safe printing in NMI context
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 14:37:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140618213752.GX4669@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1406182323300.2303@pobox.suse.cz>

On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:32:53PM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> 
> > > I agree that it might work nicely for RCU stall detector indeed. I was 
> > > looking for solution that'd work nicely both for RCU and for sysrq-l 
> > > (where we can't rely on processess being stuck in any way).
> > 
> > Agreed.  And if some more generally useful approach appears, I will be
> > quite happy to adjust RCU to use it.  In the meantime, I expect that
> > my patch will be helpful.
> 
> Agreed. And we'll look into fixing sysrq-l in parallel I guess; once there 
> is a working solution (hangs with sysrq-l can be trivially reproduced 
> almost immediately), we can then migrate RCU to it.
> 
> Still, I feel bad about the fact that we are now hostages of our printk() 
> implementation, which doesn't allow for any fixes/improvements. Having the 
> possibility to printk() from NMI would be nice and more robust ... 
> otherwise, we'll be getting people trying to do it in the future over and 
> over again, even if we now get rid of it at once.

Well, we could always have printk() splat if invoke in_nmi().

Oh, wait...  ;-)

More seriously, an in_nmi() printk() could taint the kernel, set a
flag that results in a deferred splat, do a trace_printk(), or any
number of things to let the developer know that this was a bad idea.

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-18 21:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-09  9:10 [RFC PATCH 00/11] printk: safe printing in NMI context Petr Mladek
2014-05-09  9:10 ` [RFC PATCH 01/11] printk: rename struct printk_log to printk_msg Petr Mladek
2014-05-09  9:10 ` [RFC PATCH 02/11] printk: allow to handle more log buffers Petr Mladek
2014-05-09  9:10 ` [RFC PATCH 03/11] printk: rename "logbuf_lock" to "main_logbuf_lock" Petr Mladek
2014-05-09  9:10 ` [RFC PATCH 04/11] printk: add NMI ring and cont buffers Petr Mladek
2014-05-09  9:10 ` [RFC PATCH 05/11] printk: allow to modify NMI log buffer size using boot parameter Petr Mladek
2014-05-09  9:11 ` [RFC PATCH 06/11] printk: NMI safe printk Petr Mladek
2014-05-09  9:11 ` [RFC PATCH 07/11] printk: right ordering of the cont buffers from NMI context Petr Mladek
2014-05-09  9:11 ` [RFC PATCH 08/11] printk: try hard to print Oops message in " Petr Mladek
2014-05-09  9:11 ` [RFC PATCH 09/11] printk: merge and flush NMI buffer predictably via IRQ work Petr Mladek
2014-05-09  9:11 ` [RFC PATCH 10/11] printk: survive rotation of sequence numbers Petr Mladek
2014-05-09  9:11 ` [RFC PATCH 11/11] printk: avoid staling when merging NMI log buffer Petr Mladek
2014-05-28 22:02 ` [RFC PATCH 00/11] printk: safe printing in NMI context Jiri Kosina
2014-05-29  0:09   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-05-29  8:09     ` Jiri Kosina
2014-06-10 16:46       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-06-10 16:57         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-06-10 17:32           ` Jiri Kosina
2014-06-11  9:01             ` Petr Mládek
2014-06-18 11:03           ` Jiri Kosina
2014-06-18 14:36             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-18 14:41               ` Jiri Kosina
2014-06-18 14:44                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-18 14:53                   ` Jiri Kosina
2014-06-18 15:07                     ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]               ` <CA+55aFwPgDC6gSEPfu3i-pA4f0ZbsTSvykxzX4sXMeLbdXuKrw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-06-18 16:21                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-18 16:38                   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-06-18 16:43                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-18 20:36                   ` Jiri Kosina
2014-06-18 21:07                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-18 21:12                       ` Jiri Kosina
2014-06-18 21:20                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-18 21:32                           ` Jiri Kosina
2014-06-18 21:37                             ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-06-18 23:20                         ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-30  8:13     ` Jan Kara
2014-05-30 10:10       ` Jiri Kosina
2014-06-10 16:49       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-06-12 11:50     ` Petr Mládek

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