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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] percpu: add data dependency barrier in percpu accessors and operations
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:51:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140619205137.GK4904@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1406191540240.4002@gentwo.org>

On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 03:42:07PM -0500, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> 
> > > Similar in swapon(). The percpu allocation is performed before access to
> > > the containing structure (via enable_swap_info).
> >
> > Those are indeed common use cases.  However...
> >
> > There is code where one CPU writes to another CPU's per-CPU variables.
> > One example is RCU callback offloading, where a kernel thread (which
> > might be running anywhere) dequeues a given CPU's RCU callbacks and
> > processes them.  The act of dequeuing requires write access to that
> > CPU's per-CPU rcu_data structure.  And yes, atomic operations and memory
> > barriers are of course required to make this work.
> 
> In that case special care needs to be taken to get this right. True.
> 
> I typically avoid these scenarios by sending an IPI with a pointer to the
> data structure. The modification is done by the cpu for which the per cpu
> data is local.
> 
> Maybe rewrite the code to avoid writing to other processors percpu data
> would be the right approach?

Or just keep doing what I am doing.  What exactly is the problem with it?
(Other than probably needing to clean up the cache alignment of some
of the per-CPU structures?)

							Thanx, Paul


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-19 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-12 13:56 [PATCH RFC] percpu: add data dependency barrier in percpu accessors and operations Tejun Heo
2014-06-12 15:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-12 15:52   ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-17 14:41     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-17 15:27       ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-17 15:56         ` Christoph Lameter
2014-06-17 16:00           ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-17 16:05             ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-17 16:28               ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                 ` <CA+55aFxHr8JXwDR-4g4z1mkXvZRtY=OosYcUMPZRD2upfooS1w@mail.gmail.com>
2014-06-17 18:47                   ` Christoph Lameter
2014-06-17 18:55                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-17 19:39                       ` Christoph Lameter
2014-06-17 19:47                         ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-17 19:56                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-19 20:39                           ` Christoph Lameter
2014-06-17 16:57         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-17 18:56           ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-17 19:42             ` Christoph Lameter
2014-06-17 20:44               ` Tejun Heo
2014-07-09  0:55         ` Rusty Russell
2014-07-14 11:39           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-14 15:22             ` Christoph Lameter
2014-07-15 10:11               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-15 14:06                 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-07-15 14:32                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-15 15:06                     ` Christoph Lameter
2014-07-15 15:41                       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-15 16:12                         ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                           ` <CA+55aFxU166V5-vH4vmK9OBdTZKyede=71RjjbOVSN9Qh+Se+A@mail.gmail.com>
2014-07-15 17:45                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-15 17:41                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-16 14:40                         ` Christoph Lameter
2014-07-15 11:50             ` Rusty Russell
2014-06-17 19:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-06-17 19:40   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-19 20:42     ` Christoph Lameter
2014-06-19 20:46       ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-19 21:11         ` Christoph Lameter
2014-06-19 21:15           ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-20 15:23             ` Christoph Lameter
2014-06-20 15:52               ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-19 20:51       ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-06-20 15:29         ` Christoph Lameter
2014-06-20 15:50           ` Paul E. McKenney

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