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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@suse.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	hpa@linux.intel.com,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.cz>,
	Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>, Arun KS <arunks.linux@gmail.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 4/4] printk: allow increasing the ring buffer depending on the number of CPUs
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 03:20:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140628012007.GJ27687@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140627165914.c41788af.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 04:59:14PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:32:15 -0700 "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@suse.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Andrew Morton
> > <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 01:16:30 +0200 "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@suse.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> > > Another note --  since this option depends on SMP and !BASE_SMALL technically
> > >> > > num_possible_cpus() won't ever return something smaller than or equal to 1
> > >> > > but because of the default values chosen the -1 on the compuation does affect
> > >> > > whether or not this will trigger on > 64 CPUs or >= 64 CPUs, keeping the
> > >> > > -1 means we require > 64 CPUs.
> > >> >
> > >> > hm, that sounds like more complexity.
> > >> >
> > >> > > This all can be changed however we like but the language and explained logic
> > >> > > would just need to be changed.
> > >> >
> > >> > Let's start out simple.  What's wrong with doing
> > >> >
> > >> >     log buf len = max(__LOG_BUF_LEN, nr_possible_cpus * per-cpu log buf len)
> > >>
> > >> Sure, you already took in the patch series though so how would you like to
> > >> handle a respin, you just drop the last patch and we respin it?
> > >
> > > A fresh patch would suit.  That's if you think it is a reasonable
> > > approach - you've thought about this stuff more than I have!
> > 
> > The way its implemented now makes more technical sense, in short it
> > assumes the first boot (and CPU) gets the full default kernel ring
> > buffer size, the extra size is for the gibberish that each extra CPU
> > is expected to spew out in the worst case. What you propose makes the
> > explanation simpler and easier to understand but sends the wrong
> > message about exactly how the growth of the kernel ring buffer is
> > expected scale with the addition of more CPUs.
> 
> OK, it's finally starting to sink in.  The model for the kernel-wide
> printk output is "a great pile of CPU-independent stuff plus a certain
> amount of per-cpu stuff".  And the code at present attempts to follow
> that model.  Yes?

Yup, exactly.

> I'm rather internet-challenged at present - please let me take another look at
> the patch on Monday.

OK!

  Luis

      reply	other threads:[~2014-06-28  1:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-18 20:45 [PATCH v8 1/4] printk: make dynamic kernel ring buffer alignment explicit Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-06-18 20:45 ` [PATCH v8 2/4] printk: move power of 2 practice of ring buffer size to a helper Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-06-18 20:45 ` [PATCH v8 3/4] printk: make dynamic units clear for the kernel ring buffer Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-06-18 20:45 ` [PATCH v8 4/4] printk: allow increasing the ring buffer depending on the number of CPUs Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-06-23 22:41   ` Andrew Morton
2014-06-24  0:20     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-06-24  0:45       ` Andrew Morton
2014-06-24  1:05         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-06-26 21:41           ` Andrew Morton
2014-06-26 23:16             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-06-26 23:20               ` Andrew Morton
2014-06-26 23:32                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-06-27 23:59                   ` Andrew Morton
2014-06-28  1:20                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]

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