From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: /proc/cpuinfo confusion with AMD processors
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:13:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140630131309.GA5199@pd.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53B15D27.9010306@redhat.com>
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 08:50:47AM -0400, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
> AMD defines a "Package" as the hardware processor itself. Each Package contains
> multiple Nodes, and each Node has multiple Compute Units. Each Compute Unit can
> have up to 2 cores that [with the 62xx and 63xx] do not have multiple Threads.
>
> That is, to determine the number of CPUs that Linux sees, multiply
>
> Package * Nodes * Compute Units * Cores
>
> Note that Nodes and Compute Units are not indicated in /proc/cpuinfo directly
> (although it could be argued that they should be).
>
> The output of /proc/cpuinfo is confusing at this point as ...
>
>
> processor : 31
> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
> cpu family : 21
> model : 2
> model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 6386 SE
> stepping : 0
> microcode : 0x6000822
> cpu MHz : 2800.000
> cache size : 2048 KB
> physical id : 1
> siblings : 16 <<< this is number of threads per package
> core id : 7 <<< this is the core id of this thread relative to node
> cpu cores : 8 <<< this is the number of cores per node
siblings / cpu cores = threads per compute unit.
> which makes deciphering the system topology quite difficult as values are
> relative to both nodes and the entire package. It is not possible using this
> information to uniquely identify a processor.
To do what with that information? What is the task you're trying to
accomplish?
> Thoughts/concerns?
BIOS does all kinds of hacks and renumbering to accomodate the
brainf*cked design of other OSes so this info you're trying to put in
cpuinfo might turn to be completely misleading utterly useless in some
cases.
--
Regards/Gruss,
Boris.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-30 13:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-30 12:50 RFC: /proc/cpuinfo confusion with AMD processors Prarit Bhargava
2014-06-30 13:13 ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2014-06-30 13:29 ` Prarit Bhargava
2014-06-30 13:38 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-30 14:07 ` Prarit Bhargava
2014-06-30 18:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-07-02 22:01 ` Pavel Machek
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