From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, riel@redhat.com, mingo@kernel.org,
laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
josh@joshtriplett.org, niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
rostedt@goodmis.org, dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com,
dvhart@linux.intel.com, fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com,
sbw@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu] Parallelize and economize NOCB kthread wakeups
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 14:34:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140702123412.GD19379@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140627142038.GA22942@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
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On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 07:20:38AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> An 80-CPU system with a context-switch-heavy workload can require so
> many NOCB kthread wakeups that the RCU grace-period kthreads spend several
> tens of percent of a CPU just awakening things. This clearly will not
> scale well: If you add enough CPUs, the RCU grace-period kthreads would
> get behind, increasing grace-period latency.
>
> To avoid this problem, this commit divides the NOCB kthreads into leaders
> and followers, where the grace-period kthreads awaken the leaders each of
> whom in turn awakens its followers. By default, the number of groups of
> kthreads is the square root of the number of CPUs, but this default may
> be overridden using the rcutree.rcu_nocb_leader_stride boot parameter.
> This reduces the number of wakeups done per grace period by the RCU
> grace-period kthread by the square root of the number of CPUs, but of
> course by shifting those wakeups to the leaders. In addition, because
> the leaders do grace periods on behalf of their respective followers,
> the number of wakeups of the followers decreases by up to a factor of two.
> Instead of being awakened once when new callbacks arrive and again
> at the end of the grace period, the followers are awakened only at
> the end of the grace period.
>
> For a numerical example, in a 4096-CPU system, the grace-period kthread
> would awaken 64 leaders, each of which would awaken its 63 followers
> at the end of the grace period. This compares favorably with the 79
> wakeups for the grace-period kthread on an 80-CPU system.
Urgh, how about we kill the entire nocb nonsense and try again? This is
getting quite rediculous.
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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-27 14:20 [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu] Parallelize and economize NOCB kthread wakeups Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-27 15:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2014-06-27 15:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2014-06-27 15:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-27 15:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-02 12:34 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-07-02 13:46 ` Rik van Riel
2014-07-02 16:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-03 2:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-02 15:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-02 16:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-02 17:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-02 17:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-02 17:29 ` Rik van Riel
2014-07-02 17:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-03 9:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-02 17:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-03 9:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-08 13:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-03 13:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-08 13:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-03 3:31 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-03 5:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-03 5:48 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-03 16:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-04 3:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-04 5:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-04 6:01 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-04 21:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-05 13:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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