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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, riel@redhat.com, mingo@kernel.org,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com,
	dvhart@linux.intel.com, fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com,
	sbw@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu] Parallelize and economize NOCB kthread wakeups
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 08:39:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140702153915.GQ4603@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140702123412.GD19379@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 02:34:12PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 07:20:38AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > An 80-CPU system with a context-switch-heavy workload can require so
> > many NOCB kthread wakeups that the RCU grace-period kthreads spend several
> > tens of percent of a CPU just awakening things.  This clearly will not
> > scale well: If you add enough CPUs, the RCU grace-period kthreads would
> > get behind, increasing grace-period latency.
> > 
> > To avoid this problem, this commit divides the NOCB kthreads into leaders
> > and followers, where the grace-period kthreads awaken the leaders each of
> > whom in turn awakens its followers.  By default, the number of groups of
> > kthreads is the square root of the number of CPUs, but this default may
> > be overridden using the rcutree.rcu_nocb_leader_stride boot parameter.
> > This reduces the number of wakeups done per grace period by the RCU
> > grace-period kthread by the square root of the number of CPUs, but of
> > course by shifting those wakeups to the leaders.  In addition, because
> > the leaders do grace periods on behalf of their respective followers,
> > the number of wakeups of the followers decreases by up to a factor of two.
> > Instead of being awakened once when new callbacks arrive and again
> > at the end of the grace period, the followers are awakened only at
> > the end of the grace period.
> > 
> > For a numerical example, in a 4096-CPU system, the grace-period kthread
> > would awaken 64 leaders, each of which would awaken its 63 followers
> > at the end of the grace period.  This compares favorably with the 79
> > wakeups for the grace-period kthread on an 80-CPU system.
> 
> Urgh, how about we kill the entire nocb nonsense and try again? This is
> getting quite rediculous.

Sure thing, Peter.

							Thanx, Paul


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-07-02 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-27 14:20 [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu] Parallelize and economize NOCB kthread wakeups Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-27 15:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2014-06-27 15:13   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2014-06-27 15:21     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-27 15:19   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-02 12:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-02 13:46   ` Rik van Riel
2014-07-02 16:55     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-03  2:53       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-02 15:39   ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-07-02 16:04     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-02 17:08       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-02 17:26         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-02 17:29           ` Rik van Riel
2014-07-02 17:57             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-03  9:49             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-02 17:55           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-03  9:50             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-08 13:19               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-03 13:12             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-08 13:44               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-03  3:31         ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-03  5:21           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-03  5:48             ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-03 16:29               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-04  3:23                 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-04  5:05                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-04  6:01                     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-04 21:20                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-05 13:04               ` Frederic Weisbecker

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