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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@intel.com>
Cc: "andi@firstfloor.org" <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 1/2] perf ignore LBR and extra_regs.
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:02:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140710090204.GU3935@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <37D7C6CF3E00A74B8858931C1DB2F077014D361B@SHSMSX103.ccr.corp.intel.com>

/me reminds you of 78 char text wrap.

On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 07:32:09PM +0000, Liang, Kan wrote:
> > Sure; but what I meant was, check_msr() is broken when ran on such a
> > kernel. You need to fix check_msr() to return failure on these 'ignored'
> > MSRs, after all they don't function as expected, they're effectively broken.
> 
> The function is designed to check if the MSRs can be safely accessed
> (no #GP). It cannot guarantee the correctness of the MSRs.  If KVM
> applied patch 2 and guest applied patch 1, from the guest's
> perspective, the MSRs can be accessed (no #GP triggered). So return
> true is expected. It should not be a broken. 

You're not understanding. I know you wrote that function to do that. I'm
saying that's wrong.

Look at check_hw_exists() it explicitly checks for fake MSRs and reports
them broken.

These fake MSRs _ARE_ broken, they do not behave as expected. Not
crashing is not the right consideration here, we're interested in higher
order correct behaviour.

> The only unexpected
> thing for guest is that the counting/sampling result for LBR/extra reg
> is always 0. But the patch is a short term fix to stop things from
> crashing. I think it should be acceptable.

Patch 2 is fine, patch 1, in particular your check_msr() routine is not.

      reply	other threads:[~2014-07-10  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-08 16:49 [PATCH V4 1/2] perf ignore LBR and extra_regs kan.liang
2014-07-08 16:49 ` [PATCH V4 2/2] kvm: " kan.liang
2014-07-09  8:32 ` [PATCH V4 1/2] perf " Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-09  9:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-09  9:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-09  9:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-09 14:04   ` Liang, Kan
2014-07-09 14:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-09 14:32   ` Liang, Kan
2014-07-09 14:58     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-09 15:43       ` Liang, Kan
2014-07-09 16:41         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-09 19:32           ` Liang, Kan
2014-07-10  9:02             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]

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