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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, dhowells@redhat.com,
	edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com, oleg@redhat.com,
	sbw@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/17] rcu: Bind grace-period kthreads to non-NO_HZ_FULL CPUs
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 22:45:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140711204503.GN26045@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140711203513.GA10652@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 01:35:13PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 09:11:15PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 02:05:08PM -0500, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > On Fri, 11 Jul 2014, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > That would imply that all no-nohz processors are housekeeping? So all
> > > > > processors with a tick are housekeeping?
> > > >
> > > > Well, now that I think about it again, I would really like to keep housekeeping
> > > > to CPU 0 when nohz_full= is passed.
> > > 
> > > Yeah.
> > > 
> > > > > Could we make that set configurable? Ideally I'd like to have the ability
> > > > > restrict the housekeeping to one processor.
> > > >
> > > > Ah, I'm curious about your usecase. But I think we can do that. And we should.
> > > 
> > > The use case is pretty straightforward because we are trying to keep as
> > > much OS noise as possible off most processors. Processor 0 is the
> > > sacrificial lamb that will be used for all OS processing and hopefully all
> > > high latency operations will occur there. Processors 1-X have a tick but
> > > we still try to keep latencies sane. And then there is X-Y where tick is
> > > off.
> > 
> > Ok. I don't entirely get why you need 1-X but I can easily imagine some non-latency-critical
> > stuff running there.
> > 
> > Paul proposed "housekeeping=". If we ever go there, I'd rather vote for "sacrifical_lamb="
> 
> Given Christoph's desire for only one housekeeping CPU, I guess the
> counting version makes the most sense, so that "housekeeping=N" designates
> the first N non-nohz CPUs in numerical order as housekeeping CPUs.
> If there are fewer than N non-nohz CPUs, you get a splat at boot time
> and your request is capped at the number of non-nohz CPUs.
> 
> Seem reasonable?

I wonder if it's wouldn't be rather reasonable to affine housekeeping to all non-nohz-full CPUs
by default and then people who want finergrained housekeeping can affine manually kthreads from userspace.

That implies to bind without PF_NO_SETAFFINIT but that's easy enough to do.

> 
> 							Thanx, Paul
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-11 20:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-07 22:37 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/17] Miscellaneous fixes for 3.17 Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-07 22:38 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/17] rcu: Document deadlock-avoidance information for rcu_read_unlock() Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-07 22:38   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/17] rcu: Handle obsolete references to TINY_PREEMPT_RCU Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-07 22:38   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 03/17] signal: Explain local_irq_save() call Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-08  9:01     ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-07-08 15:50       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-07 22:38   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/17] rcu: Make rcu node arrays static const char * const Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-07 22:38   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 05/17] rcu: remove redundant ACCESS_ONCE() from tick_do_timer_cpu Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-08 14:46     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-07 22:38   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 06/17] rcu: Eliminate read-modify-write ACCESS_ONCE() calls Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-08 16:59     ` Pranith Kumar
2014-07-08 20:35       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-08 20:43         ` Pranith Kumar
2014-07-08 21:40           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-07 22:38   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/17] rcu: Loosen __call_rcu()'s rcu_head alignment constraint Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-07 22:38   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/17] rcu: Allow post-unlock reference for rt_mutex Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-09  1:50     ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-07-09 16:04       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-07 22:38   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 09/17] rcu: Check both root and current rcu_node when setting up future grace period Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-07 22:38   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/17] rcu: Simplify priority boosting by putting rt_mutex in rcu_node Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-07 22:38   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/17] rcu: Bind grace-period kthreads to non-NO_HZ_FULL CPUs Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-08 15:24     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-08 15:47       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-08 18:38         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-08 19:58           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-08 20:40             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-08 22:05               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-09 15:40                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-11 18:10           ` Christoph Lameter
2014-07-11 18:25             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-11 18:45               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-11 18:57                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-11 19:08                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-11 19:26                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-11 19:43                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-11 19:55                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-11 19:05               ` Christoph Lameter
2014-07-11 19:11                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-11 20:35                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-11 20:45                     ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2014-07-12  1:39                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-14 13:52                         ` Christoph Lameter
2014-07-11 20:15                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-14 13:53                   ` Christoph Lameter
2014-07-11 18:29             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-07 22:38   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 12/17] rcu: Don't use NMIs to dump other CPUs' stacks Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-07 22:38   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 13/17] rcu: Use __this_cpu_read() instead of per_cpu_ptr() Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-07 22:38   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 14/17] rcu: remove CONFIG_PROVE_RCU_DELAY Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-08  8:11     ` Paul Bolle
2014-07-08 13:56       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-07 22:38   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 15/17] rcu: Fix __rcu_reclaim() to use true/false for bool Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-07 22:38   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 16/17] rcu: Fix a sparse warning in rcu_initiate_boost() Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-07 22:38   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 17/17] rcu: Fix a sparse warning in rcu_report_unblock_qs_rnp() Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-09  2:14 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/17] Miscellaneous fixes for 3.17 Lai Jiangshan

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