From: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] devicetree: Add generic IOMMU device tree bindings
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 08:15:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140714061532.GB2081@ulmo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201407121422.02078.arnd@arndb.de>
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On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 02:22:01PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Saturday 12 July 2014, Rob Clark wrote:
> > >> Was there actually a good reason for having the device link to the
> > >> iommu rather than the other way around? How much would people hate it
> > >> if I just ignore the generic bindings and use something that works for
> > >> me instead. I mean, it isn't exactly like there is going to be .dts
> > >> re-use across different SoC's.. and at least with current IOMMU API
> > >> some sort of of_get_named_iommu() API doesn't really make sense.
> > >
> > > The thing is, if you end up ignoring the generic binding then we have two
> > > IOMMUs using the same (ARM SMMU) binding and it begs the question as to
> > > which is the more generic! I know we're keen to get this merged, but merging
> > > something that people won't use and calling it generic doesn't seem ideal
> > > either. We do, however, desperately need a generic binding.
> >
> > yeah, ignoring the generic binding is not my first choice. I'd rather
> > have something that works well for everyone. But I wasn't really sure
> > if the current proposal was arbitrary, or if there are some
> > conflicting requirements between different platforms.
>
> The common case that needs to be simple is attaching one (master) device
> to an IOMMU using the shared global context for the purposes of implementing
> the dma-mapping API.
>
> The way that Thierry's binding does that is the obvious solution to this,
> and it mirrors what we do in practically every other subsystem.
That wasn't really the intention, though. We shouldn't be designing
bindings to work well in one use-case or another. My motivation for
doing it this way was that I think it naturally models the flow of
master IDs. They originate within the masters and flow towards the
IOMMU device. In other words, they are a property of the masters so
quite literally should be described in the device tree nodes of the
masters.
Thierry
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Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-04 15:29 [PATCH v4] devicetree: Add generic IOMMU device tree bindings Thierry Reding
2014-07-09 13:40 ` Will Deacon
2014-07-09 14:21 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-09 18:10 ` Will Deacon
2014-07-10 9:49 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-10 10:23 ` Will Deacon
2014-07-10 10:57 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-10 12:38 ` Will Deacon
2014-07-11 20:55 ` Rob Clark
2014-07-12 9:39 ` Will Deacon
2014-07-12 11:26 ` Rob Clark
2014-07-12 12:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-12 12:57 ` Rob Clark
2014-07-13 9:43 ` Will Deacon
2014-07-13 11:43 ` Rob Clark
2014-07-16 1:25 ` Olav Haugan
2014-07-16 10:10 ` Will Deacon
2014-07-16 20:24 ` Rob Clark
2014-07-14 6:44 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-14 10:08 ` Will Deacon
2014-07-14 6:24 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-14 10:13 ` Rob Clark
2014-07-14 6:15 ` Thierry Reding [this message]
2014-07-30 11:04 ` Will Deacon
2014-07-30 13:23 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-30 13:33 ` Joerg Roedel
2014-07-30 17:37 ` Olof Johansson
2014-07-30 14:30 ` Will Deacon
2014-07-30 18:08 ` Rob Herring
2014-07-30 20:11 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-30 15:26 ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-30 17:35 ` Olof Johansson
2014-07-30 18:18 ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-31 10:09 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-31 10:50 ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-31 11:14 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-31 9:51 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-31 8:39 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-31 9:22 ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-31 10:18 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-31 10:23 ` Joerg Roedel
2014-07-31 10:46 ` Thierry Reding
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