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From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com>, Gleb Natapov <gleb@kernel.org>,
	kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/5] random,x86: Add arch_get_slow_rng_u64
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 06:33:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140717103324.GJ1491@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53C75733.8060507@zytor.com>

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 09:55:15PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 07/16/2014 05:03 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >>
> > I meant that prandom isn't using rdrand for early seeding.
> > 
> 
> We should probably fix that.

It wouldn't hurt to explicitly use arch_get_random_long() in prandom,
but it does use get_random_bytes() in early seed, and for CPU's with
RDRAND present, we do use it in init_std_data() in
drivers/char/random.c, so prandom is already getting initialized via
an RNG (which is effectively a DRBG even if it doesn't pass all of
NIST's rules) which is derived from RDRAND.

Cheers,

					- Ted


  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-17 12:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-16 21:45 [PATCH v3 0/5] random,x86,kvm: Add and use MSR_KVM_GET_RNG_SEED Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-16 21:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] x86,kvm: Add MSR_KVM_GET_RNG_SEED and a matching feature bit Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-17 17:43   ` Andrew Honig
2014-07-17 17:45     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-16 21:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] random,x86: Add arch_get_slow_rng_u64 Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-16 21:59   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-07-16 22:13     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-16 22:40       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-16 22:59         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-07-17  0:03           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-17  4:55             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-07-17 10:33               ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2014-07-17 16:39                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-07-17 17:12                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-17 17:32                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-17 17:34                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-17 18:42                         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-07-17 19:15                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-17 12:39           ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-16 21:45 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] random: Seed pools from arch_get_slow_rng_u64 at startup Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-16 21:45 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] random: Log how many bits we managed to seed with in init_std_data Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-16 21:45 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] x86,kaslr: Use MSR_KVM_GET_RNG_SEED for KASLR if available Andy Lutomirski

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