From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>
To: Boaz Harrosh <openosd@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 10/22] Replace the XIP page fault handler with the DAX page fault handler
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:57:44 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140723195744.GG6754@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53CFE965.5020304@gmail.com>
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 07:57:09PM +0300, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
> > +/*
> > + * The user has performed a load from a hole in the file. Allocating
> > + * a new page in the file would cause excessive storage usage for
> > + * workloads with sparse files. We allocate a page cache page instead.
> > + * We'll kick it out of the page cache if it's ever written to,
> > + * otherwise it will simply fall out of the page cache under memory
> > + * pressure without ever having been dirtied.
> > + */
>
> Do you like this ?? I understand that you cannot use the ZERO page or
> such global page on a page cache since each instance needs its own
> list_head/index/mapping and so on. But why use any page at all.
>
> use a global ZERO page, either the system global, or static local to
> this system. map it to the current application VMA in question, using it's
> pfn (page_to_pfn) just like you do with real DAX-blocks from prd.
I must admit to not understanding the MM particularly well. There would
seem to be problems with rmap when doing this kind of trick. Also, this
is how reading from holes on regular filesystems work (except for the
part about kicking it out of page cache on a write). A third reason is
that there are some forms of PMem which are terribly slow to write to.
I have a longer-term plan to support these memories by transparently
caching them in DRAM and only writing back to the media on flush/sync.
> Say app A reads an hole, then app B reads an hole. Both now point to the same
> zero page pfn, now say app B writes to that hole, mkwrite will convert it to
> a real dax-block pfn and will map the new pfn in the faulting vma. But what about
> app A, will it read the old pfn? who loops on all VMA's that have some mapping
> and invalidates those mapping.
That's the call to unmap_mapping_range().
> Same with truncate. App A mmap-read a block, app B does a read-mmap then a truncate.
> who loops on all VMA mappings of these blocks to invalidate them. With page-cache and
> pages we have a list of all VMA's that currently have mappings on a page, but with
> dax-pfns (dax-blocks) we do *not* have page struct, who keeps the list of current
> active vma-mappings?
Same solution ... there's a list in the address_space of all the VMAs who
have it mapped. See truncate_pagecache() in mm/truncate.c (filesystems
usually call truncate_setsize()).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-07-23 19:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-22 19:47 [PATCH v8 00/22] Support ext4 on NV-DIMMs Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-22 19:47 ` [PATCH v8 01/22] Fix XIP fault vs truncate race Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-23 11:21 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-07-22 19:47 ` [PATCH v8 02/22] Allow page fault handlers to perform the COW Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-23 11:23 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-07-22 19:47 ` [PATCH v8 03/22] axonram: Fix bug in direct_access Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-23 11:24 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-07-22 19:47 ` [PATCH v8 04/22] Change direct_access calling convention Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-30 16:03 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-07-30 16:12 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-07-30 20:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-31 10:16 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-07-30 19:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-31 10:11 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-07-31 14:13 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-31 15:28 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-07-31 17:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-31 18:04 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-07-31 20:30 ` Zwisler, Ross
2014-08-01 18:45 ` Zwisler, Ross
2014-07-22 19:47 ` [PATCH v8 05/22] Add vm_replace_mixed() Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-23 9:10 ` Jan Kara
2014-07-23 11:45 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-07-23 13:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-23 14:20 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-07-23 14:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-23 15:55 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-07-24 1:36 ` Zhang, Tianfei
2014-07-25 19:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-28 13:25 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-07-29 1:55 ` Zhang, Tianfei
2014-07-22 19:47 ` [PATCH v8 06/22] Introduce IS_DAX(inode) Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-22 19:47 ` [PATCH v8 07/22] Add copy_to_iter(), copy_from_iter() and iov_iter_zero() Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-22 19:47 ` [PATCH v8 08/22] Replace XIP read and write with DAX I/O Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-22 19:47 ` [PATCH v8 09/22] Replace ext2_clear_xip_target with dax_clear_blocks Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-22 19:47 ` [PATCH v8 10/22] Replace the XIP page fault handler with the DAX page fault handler Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-23 12:10 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-07-23 13:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-23 14:10 ` [PATCH v8 00/22] Support ext4 on NV-DIMMs Howard Chu
2014-07-23 14:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-23 15:28 ` Howard Chu
2014-07-23 20:55 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-23 16:57 ` [PATCH v8 10/22] Replace the XIP page fault handler with the DAX page fault handler Boaz Harrosh
2014-07-23 19:57 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2014-07-22 19:47 ` [PATCH v8 11/22] Replace xip_truncate_page with dax_truncate_page Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-22 19:48 ` [PATCH v8 12/22] Replace XIP documentation with DAX documentation Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-22 19:48 ` [PATCH v8 13/22] Remove get_xip_mem Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-22 19:48 ` [PATCH v8 14/22] ext2: Remove ext2_xip_verify_sb() Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-22 19:48 ` [PATCH v8 15/22] ext2: Remove ext2_use_xip Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-22 19:48 ` [PATCH v8 16/22] ext2: Remove xip.c and xip.h Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-22 19:48 ` [PATCH v8 17/22] Remove CONFIG_EXT2_FS_XIP and rename CONFIG_FS_XIP to CONFIG_FS_DAX Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-22 19:48 ` [PATCH v8 18/22] ext2: Remove ext2_aops_xip Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-22 19:48 ` [PATCH v8 19/22] Get rid of most mentions of XIP in ext2 Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-22 19:48 ` [PATCH v8 20/22] xip: Add xip_zero_page_range Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-22 19:48 ` [PATCH v8 21/22] ext4: Add DAX functionality Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-22 19:48 ` [PATCH v8 22/22] brd: Rename XIP to DAX Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v8 00/22] Support ext4 on NV-DIMMs Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-07-23 13:59 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-23 15:58 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-07-23 19:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-07-24 18:51 ` Ross Zwisler
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