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From: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>
To: Aditya Kali <adityakali@google.com>
Cc: tj@kernel.org, lizefan@huawei.com, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] RFC: CGroup Namespaces
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:10:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140724161018.GL26600@ubuntumail> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1405626731-12220-1-git-send-email-adityakali@google.com>

Quoting Aditya Kali (adityakali@google.com):
> Background
>   Cgroups and Namespaces are used together to create “virtual”
>   containers that isolates the host environment from the processes
>   running in container. But since cgroups themselves are not
>   “virtualized”, the task is always able to see global cgroups view
>   through cgroupfs mount and via /proc/self/cgroup file.

Hi,

A few questions/comments:

1. Based on this description, am I to understand that after doing a
   cgroupns unshare, 'mount -t cgroup cgroup /mnt' by default will
   still mount the global root cgroup?  Any plans on "changing" that?
   Will attempts to change settings of a cgroup which is not under
   our current ns be rejected?  (That should be easy to do given your
   patch 1/5).  Sorry if it's done in the set, I'm jumping around...

2. What would be the reprecussions of allowing cgroupns unshare so
   long as you have ns_capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) to the user_ns which
   created your current ns cgroup?  It'd be a shame if that wasn't
   on the roadmap.

3. The un-namespaced view of /proc/self/cgroup from a sibling cgroupns
   makes me wonder whether it wouldn't be more appropriate to leave
   /proc/self/cgroup always un-filtered, and use /proc/self/nscgroup
   (or somesuch) to provide the namespaced view.  /proc/self/nscgroup
   would simply be empty (or say (invalid) or (unreachable)) from a
   sibling ns.  That will give criu and admin tools like lxc/docker all
   they need to do simple cgroup setup.

> 
>   $ cat /proc/self/cgroup 
>   0:cpuset,cpu,cpuacct,memory,devices,freezer,hugetlb:/batchjobs/c_job_id1
> 
>   This exposure of cgroup names to the processes running inside a
>   container results in some problems:
>   (1) The container names are typically host-container-management-agent
>       (systemd, docker/libcontainer, etc.) data and leaking its name (or
>       leaking the hierarchy) reveals too much information about the host
>       system.
>   (2) It makes the container migration across machines (CRIU) more
>       difficult as the container names need to be unique across the
>       machines in the migration domain.
>   (3) It makes it difficult to run container management tools (like
>       docker/libcontainer, lmctfy, etc.) within virtual containers
>       without adding dependency on some state/agent present outside the
>       container.
> 
>   Note that the feature proposed here is completely different than the
>   “ns cgroup” feature which existed in the linux kernel until recently.
>   The ns cgroup also attempted to connect cgroups and namespaces by
>   creating a new cgroup every time a new namespace was created. It did
>   not solve any of the above mentioned problems and was later dropped
>   from the kernel.
> 
> Introducing CGroup Namespaces
>   With unified cgroup hierarchy
>   (Documentation/cgroups/unified-hierarchy.txt), the containers can now
>   have a much more coherent cgroup view and its easy to associate a
>   container with a single cgroup. This also allows us to virtualize the
>   cgroup view for tasks inside the container.
> 
>   The new CGroup Namespace allows a process to “unshare” its cgroup
>   hierarchy starting from the cgroup its currently in.
>   For Ex:
>   $ cat /proc/self/cgroup
>   0:cpuset,cpu,cpuacct,memory,devices,freezer,hugetlb:/batchjobs/c_job_id1
>   $ ls -l /proc/self/ns/cgroup
>   lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2014-07-15 10:37 /proc/self/ns/cgroup -> cgroup:[4026531835]
>   $ ~/unshare -c  # calls unshare(CLONE_NEWCGROUP) and exec’s /bin/bash
>   [ns]$ ls -l /proc/self/ns/cgroup
>   lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2014-07-15 10:35 /proc/self/ns/cgroup -> cgroup:[4026532183]
>   # From within new cgroupns, process sees that its in the root cgroup
>   [ns]$ cat /proc/self/cgroup
>   0:cpuset,cpu,cpuacct,memory,devices,freezer,hugetlb:/
> 
>   # From global cgroupns:
>   $ cat /proc/<pid>/cgroup
>   0:cpuset,cpu,cpuacct,memory,devices,freezer,hugetlb:/batchjobs/c_job_id1
> 
>   The virtualization of /proc/self/cgroup file combined with restricting
>   the view of cgroup hierarchy by bind-mounting for the
>   $CGROUP_MOUNT/batchjobs/c_job_id1/ directory to
>   $CONTAINER_CHROOT/sys/fs/cgroup/) should provide a completely isolated
>   cgroup view inside the container.
> 
>   In its current simplistic form, the cgroup namespaces provide
>   following behavior:
> 
>   (1) The “root” cgroup for a cgroup namespace is the cgroup in which
>       the process calling unshare is running.
>       For ex. if a process in /batchjobs/c_job_id1 cgroup calls unshare,
>       cgroup /batchjobs/c_job_id1 becomes the cgroupns-root.
>       For the init_cgroup_ns, this is the real root (“/”) cgroup
>       (identified in code as cgrp_dfl_root.cgrp).
> 
>   (2) The cgroupns-root cgroup does not change even if the namespace
>       creator process later moves to a different cgroup.
>       $ ~/unshare -c # unshare cgroupns in some cgroup
>       [ns]$ cat /proc/self/cgroup 
>       0:cpuset,cpu,cpuacct,memory,devices,freezer,hugetlb:/ 
>       [ns]$ mkdir sub_cgrp_1
>       [ns]$ echo 0 > sub_cgrp_1/cgroup.procs
>       [ns]$ cat /proc/self/cgroup 
>       0:cpuset,cpu,cpuacct,memory,devices,freezer,hugetlb:/sub_cgrp_1
> 
>   (3) Each process gets its CGROUPNS specific view of
>       /proc/<pid>/cgroup.
>   (a) Processes running inside the cgroup namespace will be able to see
>       cgroup paths (in /proc/self/cgroup) only inside their root cgroup
>       [ns]$ sleep 100000 &  # From within unshared cgroupns
>       [1] 7353
>       [ns]$ echo 7353 > sub_cgrp_1/cgroup.procs
>       [ns]$ cat /proc/7353/cgroup
>       0:cpuset,cpu,cpuacct,memory,devices,freezer,hugetlb:/sub_cgrp_1
> 
>   (b) From global cgroupns, the real cgroup path will be visible:
>       $ cat /proc/7353/cgroup
>       0:cpuset,cpu,cpuacct,memory,devices,freezer,hugetlb:/batchjobs/c_job_id1/sub_cgrp_1
> 
>   (c) From a sibling cgroupns, the real path will be visible:
>       [ns2]$ cat /proc/7353/cgroup
>       0:cpuset,cpu,cpuacct,memory,devices,freezer,hugetlb:/batchjobs/c_job_id1/sub_cgrp_1
>       (In correct container setup though, it should not be possible to
>        access PIDs in another container in the first place. This can be
>        detected changed if desired.)
> 
>   (4) Processes inside a cgroupns are not allowed to move out of the
>       cgroupns-root. This is true even if a privileged process in global
>       cgroupns tries to move the process out of its cgroupns-root.
> 
>       # From global cgroupns
>       $ cat /proc/7353/cgroup
>       0:cpuset,cpu,cpuacct,memory,devices,freezer,hugetlb:/batchjobs/c_job_id1/sub_cgrp_1
>       # cgroupns-root for 7353 is /batchjobs/c_job_id1
>       $ echo 7353 > batchjobs/c_job_id2/cgroup.procs
>       -bash: echo: write error: Operation not permitted
> 
>   (5) setns() is not supported for cgroup namespace in the initial
>       version.
> 
>   (6) When some thread from a multi-threaded process unshares its
>       cgroup-namespace, the new cgroupns gets applied to the entire
>       process (all the threads). This should be OK since
>       unified-hierarchy only allows process-level containerization. So
>       all the threads in the process will have the same cgroup. And both
>       - changing cgroups and unsharing namespaces - are protected under
>       threadgroup_lock(task).
> 
>   (7) The cgroup namespace is alive as long as there is atleast 1
>       process inside it. When the last process exits, the cgroup
>       namespace is destroyed. The cgroupns-root and the actual cgroups
>       remain though.
> 
> Implementation
>   The current patch-set is based on top of Tejun's cgroup tree (for-next
>   branch). Its fairly non-intrusive and provides above mentioned
>   features.
> 
> Possible extensions of CGROUPNS:
>   (1) The Documentation/cgroups/unified-hierarchy.txt mentions use of
>       capabilities to restrict cgroups to administrative users. CGroup
>       namespaces could be of help here. With cgroup namespaces, it might
>       be possible to delegate administration of sub-cgroups under a
>       cgroupns-root to the cgroupns owner.
> 
>   (2) Provide a cgroupns specific cgroupfs mount. i.e., the following
>       command when ran from inside a cgroupns should only mount the
>       hierarchy from cgroupns-root cgroup:
>       $ mount -t cgroup cgroup <cgroup-mountpoint>
>       # -o __DEVEL__sane_behavior should be implicit
> 
>       This is similar to how procfs can be mounted for every PIDNS. This
>       may have some usecases.
> 
> ---
>  fs/kernfs/dir.c                  |  51 +++++++++++++---
>  fs/proc/namespaces.c             |   3 +
>  include/linux/cgroup.h           |  36 ++++++++++-
>  include/linux/cgroup_namespace.h |  62 +++++++++++++++++++
>  include/linux/kernfs.h           |   3 +
>  include/linux/nsproxy.h          |   2 +
>  include/linux/proc_ns.h          |   4 ++
>  include/uapi/linux/sched.h       |   3 +-
>  init/Kconfig                     |   9 +++
>  kernel/Makefile                  |   1 +
>  kernel/cgroup.c                  |  75 +++++++++++++++++------
>  kernel/cgroup_namespace.c        | 128 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  kernel/fork.c                    |   2 +-
>  kernel/nsproxy.c                 |  19 +++++-
>  14 files changed, 364 insertions(+), 34 deletions(-)
>  create mode 100644 include/linux/cgroup_namespace.h
>  create mode 100644 kernel/cgroup_namespace.c
> 
> [PATCH 1/5] kernfs: Add API to get generate relative kernfs path
> [PATCH 2/5] sched: new clone flag CLONE_NEWCGROUP for cgroup
> [PATCH 3/5] cgroup: add function to get task's cgroup on default
> [PATCH 4/5] cgroup: export cgroup_get() and cgroup_put()
> [PATCH 5/5] cgroup: introduce cgroup namespaces
> _______________________________________________
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-07-24 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 157+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <adityakali-cgroupns>
2014-07-17 19:52 ` [PATCH 0/5] RFC: CGroup Namespaces Aditya Kali
2014-07-17 19:52   ` [PATCH 1/5] kernfs: Add API to get generate relative kernfs path Aditya Kali
2014-07-24 15:10     ` Serge Hallyn
2014-07-17 19:52   ` [PATCH 2/5] sched: new clone flag CLONE_NEWCGROUP for cgroup namespace Aditya Kali
2014-07-24 17:01     ` Serge Hallyn
2014-07-31 19:48       ` Aditya Kali
2014-08-04 23:12         ` Serge Hallyn
2014-07-17 19:52   ` [PATCH 3/5] cgroup: add function to get task's cgroup on default hierarchy Aditya Kali
2014-07-24 16:59     ` Serge Hallyn
2014-07-17 19:52   ` [PATCH 4/5] cgroup: export cgroup_get() and cgroup_put() Aditya Kali
2014-07-24 17:03     ` Serge Hallyn
2014-07-17 19:52   ` [PATCH 5/5] cgroup: introduce cgroup namespaces Aditya Kali
2014-07-17 19:57     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-17 20:55       ` Aditya Kali
2014-07-18 16:51         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-18 18:51           ` Aditya Kali
2014-07-18 18:57             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-21 22:11               ` Aditya Kali
2014-07-21 22:16                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-23 19:52                   ` Aditya Kali
2014-07-18 16:00   ` [PATCH 0/5] RFC: CGroup Namespaces Serge Hallyn
2014-07-24 16:10   ` Serge Hallyn [this message]
2014-07-24 16:36   ` Serge Hallyn
2014-07-25 19:29     ` Aditya Kali
2014-07-25 20:27       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-29  4:51       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-07-29 15:08         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-29 16:06           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-10-13 21:23 ` [PATCHv1 0/8] " Aditya Kali
2014-10-13 21:23   ` [PATCHv1 1/8] kernfs: Add API to generate relative kernfs path Aditya Kali
2014-10-16 16:07     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-10-13 21:23   ` [PATCHv1 2/8] sched: new clone flag CLONE_NEWCGROUP for cgroup namespace Aditya Kali
2014-10-16 16:08     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-10-13 21:23   ` [PATCHv1 3/8] cgroup: add function to get task's cgroup on default hierarchy Aditya Kali
2014-10-16 16:13     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-10-13 21:23   ` [PATCHv1 4/8] cgroup: export cgroup_get() and cgroup_put() Aditya Kali
2014-10-16 16:14     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-10-13 21:23   ` [PATCHv1 5/8] cgroup: introduce cgroup namespaces Aditya Kali
2014-10-16 16:37     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-10-24  1:03       ` Aditya Kali
2014-10-25  3:16         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-10-13 21:23   ` [PATCHv1 6/8] cgroup: restrict cgroup operations within task's cgroupns Aditya Kali
2014-10-17  9:28     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-10-22 19:06       ` Aditya Kali
2014-10-19  4:57     ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-13 21:23   ` [PATCHv1 7/8] cgroup: cgroup namespace setns support Aditya Kali
2014-10-16 21:12     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-10-16 21:17       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-16 21:22       ` Aditya Kali
2014-10-16 21:47         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-10-19  5:23           ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-19 18:26             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-20  4:55               ` Eric W.Biederman
2014-10-21  0:20                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-21  4:49                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-21  5:03                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-21  5:42                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-21  5:49                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-21 18:49                           ` Aditya Kali
2014-10-21 19:02                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-21 22:33                               ` Aditya Kali
2014-10-21 22:42                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-22  0:46                                   ` Aditya Kali
2014-10-22  0:58                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-22 18:37                                       ` Aditya Kali
2014-10-22 18:50                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-22 19:42                                         ` Tejun Heo
2014-10-17  9:52     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-10-13 21:23   ` [PATCHv1 8/8] cgroup: mount cgroupns-root when inside non-init cgroupns Aditya Kali
2014-10-17 12:19     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-10-14 22:42   ` [PATCHv1 0/8] CGroup Namespaces Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-14 23:33     ` Aditya Kali
2014-10-19  4:54   ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-22 18:10     ` Vincent Batts
2014-10-31 19:18 ` [PATCHv2 0/7] " Aditya Kali
2014-10-31 19:18   ` [PATCHv2 1/7] kernfs: Add API to generate relative kernfs path Aditya Kali
2014-10-31 19:18   ` [PATCHv2 2/7] sched: new clone flag CLONE_NEWCGROUP for cgroup namespace Aditya Kali
2014-10-31 19:18   ` [PATCHv2 3/7] cgroup: add function to get task's cgroup on default hierarchy Aditya Kali
2014-10-31 19:18   ` [PATCHv2 4/7] cgroup: export cgroup_get() and cgroup_put() Aditya Kali
2014-10-31 19:18   ` [PATCHv2 5/7] cgroup: introduce cgroup namespaces Aditya Kali
2014-11-01  0:02     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-01  0:58       ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-11-03 23:42         ` Aditya Kali
2014-11-03 23:40       ` Aditya Kali
2014-11-04  1:56     ` Aditya Kali
2014-10-31 19:19   ` [PATCHv2 6/7] cgroup: cgroup namespace setns support Aditya Kali
2014-10-31 19:19   ` [PATCHv2 7/7] cgroup: mount cgroupns-root when inside non-init cgroupns Aditya Kali
2014-11-01  0:07     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-01  2:59       ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-11-01  3:29         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-03 23:12       ` Aditya Kali
2014-11-03 23:15         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-03 23:23           ` Aditya Kali
2014-11-03 23:48             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-04  0:12               ` Aditya Kali
2014-11-04  0:17                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-04  0:49                   ` Aditya Kali
2014-11-04 13:57         ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-06 17:28           ` Aditya Kali
2014-11-01  1:09     ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-11-03 22:46       ` Aditya Kali
     [not found]       ` <CAGr1F2Hd_PS_AscBGMXdZC9qkHGRUp-MeQvJksDOQkRBB3RGoA@mail.gmail.com>
2014-11-03 22:56         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-04 13:46         ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-04 15:00           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-04 15:50             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-11-12 17:48               ` Aditya Kali
2014-11-04  1:59     ` Aditya Kali
2014-11-04 13:10   ` [PATCHv2 0/7] CGroup Namespaces Vivek Goyal
2014-11-06 17:33     ` Aditya Kali
2014-11-26 22:58       ` Richard Weinberger
2014-12-02 19:14         ` Aditya Kali
2014-12-05  1:55 ` [PATCHv3 0/8] " Aditya Kali
2014-12-05  1:55   ` [PATCHv3 1/8] kernfs: Add API to generate relative kernfs path Aditya Kali
2014-12-05  1:55   ` [PATCHv3 2/8] sched: new clone flag CLONE_NEWCGROUP for cgroup namespace Aditya Kali
2014-12-05  1:55   ` [PATCHv3 3/8] cgroup: add function to get task's cgroup on default hierarchy Aditya Kali
2014-12-05  1:55   ` [PATCHv3 4/8] cgroup: export cgroup_get() and cgroup_put() Aditya Kali
2014-12-05  1:55   ` [PATCHv3 5/8] cgroup: introduce cgroup namespaces Aditya Kali
2014-12-12  8:54     ` Zefan Li
2014-12-05  1:55   ` [PATCHv3 6/8] cgroup: cgroup namespace setns support Aditya Kali
2014-12-05  1:55   ` [PATCHv3 7/8] cgroup: mount cgroupns-root when inside non-init cgroupns Aditya Kali
2014-12-12  8:55     ` Zefan Li
2014-12-05  1:55   ` [PATCHv3 8/8] cgroup: Add documentation for cgroup namespaces Aditya Kali
2014-12-12  8:54     ` Zefan Li
2015-01-05 22:54       ` Aditya Kali
2014-12-14 23:05     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-01-05 22:48       ` Aditya Kali
2015-01-05 22:52         ` Richard Weinberger
2015-01-05 23:53           ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-06  0:07             ` Richard Weinberger
2015-01-06  0:10             ` Aditya Kali
2015-01-06  0:17               ` Richard Weinberger
2015-01-06 23:20                 ` Aditya Kali
2015-01-06 23:39                   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-01-07  9:28                   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-01-07 14:45                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-07 19:30                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-01-07 22:14                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-07 22:45                           ` Tejun Heo
2015-01-07 23:02                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-07 23:06                               ` Tejun Heo
2015-01-07 23:09                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-07 23:16                                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-01-07 23:27                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-07 23:35                                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-02-11  3:46                                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-11  4:09                                         ` Tejun Heo
2015-02-11  4:29                                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-11  5:02                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-11  5:17                                               ` Tejun Heo
2015-02-11  6:29                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-11 14:36                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-02-11 16:00                                                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-11 16:03                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-02-11 16:18                                                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-11  5:10                                             ` Tejun Heo
2015-01-07 18:57                     ` Aditya Kali
2014-12-05  3:20   ` [PATCHv3 0/8] CGroup Namespaces Aditya Kali

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