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From: Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Michel Dänzer" <michel@daenzer.net>,
	"Jakub Jelinek" <jakub@redhat.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Debian GCC Maintainers" <debian-gcc@lists.debian.org>,
	"Debian Kernel Team" <debian-kernel@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Random panic in load_balance() with 3.16-rc
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:19:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140726201914.GB21842@x4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyo=HVZGEYNmz9GHqLatFHiJYTviKz_dXjqCv8b_gGxBA@mail.gmail.com>

On 2014.07.26 at 12:56 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Markus Trippelsdorf
> <markus@trippelsdorf.de> wrote:
> >
> > But fortunately the workaround for the new inode.c bug is the same as
> > for the original bug: -fno-var-tracking-assignments.
> >
> > It would make sense to enabled it unconditionally for all debug
> > configurations for now.
> 
> So how is code generation affected - if at all? Does the whole
> "var-tracking-assignments" thing *only* matter for debug information?

Yes. It should only affect the quality of the debugging information.
If code generation is affected it is a compiler bug.

> Also, when was it introduced as an option? Can we just unconditionally
> enable it, or do we need to be careful about gcc versions?

Git blame says it was introduced:  Wed Sep 2 02:42:21 2009.

> I'd *like* a debug kernel to not differ significantly from a non-debug
> kernel. Most sane kernel developers (where "sane" is "me" by
> definition) do not tend to use debug kernels, because the debug
> overhead is absolutely disgustingly enormous at build time. But if we
> then have most users using distro kernels that had debug info enabled,
> it would be sad if code generation differences are huge.
> 
> So I'd prefer to just unconditionally add that
> "-fno-var-tracking-assignments" to the build.
> 
> I just tested it on one file (fs/dcache.c) and it made no difference
> at all for my non-debug build. Is this expected?

Yes. The option only affects -g builds.

> Because if the only effect of "-fno-var-tracking-assignments" is
> potentially slightly worse debug information for variables, I'll
> enable it in a jiffy if it fixes this code generation bug. But I'd
> like to get that confirmed.
> 
> Finally, for CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO_REDUCED, we already use
> "-fno-var-tracking". Is that a stronger version that also disables
> "var-tracking-assignments"?

Yes.

So, the option should only be enabled for debugging builds. Something
like the following should be sufficient:

diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile
index 6b2774145d66..037b78d0f407 100644
--- a/Makefile
+++ b/Makefile
@@ -689,7 +689,7 @@ endif
 endif
 
 ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO
-KBUILD_CFLAGS	+= -g
+KBUILD_CFLAGS	+= -g -fno-var-tracking-assignments
 KBUILD_AFLAGS	+= -Wa,-gdwarf-2
 endif
 
-- 
Markus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-07-26 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <53C77BB8.6030804@daenzer.net>
2014-07-17  7:58 ` Random panic in load_balance() with 3.16-rc Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-18  9:29   ` Michel Dänzer
2014-07-22  6:13     ` Michel Dänzer
2014-07-23  3:53       ` Michel Dänzer
2014-07-23  4:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-23  6:49           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-23  8:05             ` Michel Dänzer
2014-07-23  8:28               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-23  9:25                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-23  9:31                   ` Michel Dänzer
2014-07-23  9:45                     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2014-07-23 11:11                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-23 11:30                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-23 14:24                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-23 14:38                             ` Michel Dänzer
2014-07-23 15:51                             ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                               ` <20140723155526.GW3935@laptop>
2014-07-23 16:54                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-23 17:03                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-23 17:12                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-23 17:26                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-23 18:25                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-23 18:35                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-23 18:41                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-23 18:55                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-23 19:02                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-23 19:20                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-24  1:43                                                     ` Michel Dänzer
2014-07-24 18:47                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-24 18:59                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-25  1:25                                                         ` Michel Dänzer
2014-07-25  2:33                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-25  2:50                                                             ` Nick Krause
2014-07-25  2:36                                                           ` Nick Krause
2014-07-25  3:55                                                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-07-25  4:00                                                             ` Nick Krause
2014-07-25 14:02                                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2014-07-25 18:29                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-25 19:10                                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-07-25 20:01                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-25 20:13                                                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-07-25 21:25                                                                   ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-07-26 18:28                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-26 18:39                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-26 19:35                                                                     ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-07-26 19:55                                                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-26 20:20                                                                         ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-07-26 22:08                                                                           ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-07-26 19:56                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-26 20:03                                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-26 20:19                                                                         ` Markus Trippelsdorf [this message]
2014-07-26 20:39                                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-28 12:26                                                                             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2014-07-28 13:10                                                                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-28 14:11                                                                                 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2014-07-28 16:45                                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-28 17:27                                                                                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-07-28 18:09                                                                                   ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-07-28 18:28                                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-28 18:41                                                                                       ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-07-29  8:58                                                                                     ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-07-28 19:50                                                                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-28  3:47                                                                         ` Michel Dänzer
2014-07-28 16:48                                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-29  2:29                                                                             ` Michel Dänzer
2014-08-05  3:19                                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-07-26 18:02                                                           ` Steven Chamberlain
2014-07-29  9:20                                                             ` Michel Dänzer
2014-07-25  6:48                                                         ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-07-25  8:15                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-25  9:03                                                             ` Michel Dänzer
2014-07-25  9:21                                                               ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-07-25  9:42                                                                 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-07-23 18:07                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-23 18:31                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-23 18:24                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-23 17:04                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-23 17:15                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-07-23 18:25                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-23 18:23                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-23 10:52                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-24  7:18                     ` Michel Dänzer
2014-07-24  7:51                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-24  9:55                         ` Peter Zijlstra

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