From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] workqueue: use dedicated creater kthread for all pools
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 22:16:43 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140729021643.GA22241@mtj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53D6F84B.6000000@cn.fujitsu.com>
Hello,
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 09:26:35AM +0800, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
> > It's a bit difficult to get excited about this patchset given that
> > this is mostly churn without many actual benefits. Sure, it
> > consolidates one-per-pool managers into one kthread_worker but it was
> > one-per-pool already. That said, I don't hate it and it may be
> > considered an improvement. I don't know.
>
> It prefers to processing works rather than creating worker without any
> loss of the guarantee.
>
> processing works makes directly progress for the system.
> creating worker makes delay and indirectly progress.
That's misleading, isn't it? Both process work items the same. The
only difference is per-pool manager ends up using more tasks, thus a
bit more memory, doing it. There really is no signficant behavior
difference between the two schemes except for how many tasks end up
serving as the manager.
> > This is kinda silly when the duty of worker creation is served by an
> > external entity. Why would a pool need any idle worker?
>
> The idle worker must be ready or being prepared for wq_worker_sleeping()
> or chained-wake-up.
>
> percpu-kthreadd can serve for wq_worker_sleeping() in this case, but it is
> not a good idle to introduce percpu-kthreadd now since no other user.
Hmmm... I'm not really sure what we're getting with this. It doesn't
look much simpler to me. :(
Lai, I don't know. If this ends up simplifying things significantly,
sure, but as it currently stands, I can't see why we'd need to do
this. If you wanna pursue this, please try to make it more
beneficial.
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-07-29 2:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-26 3:04 [PATCH 0/3] workqueue: offload the worker-management out from kworker Lai Jiangshan
2014-07-26 3:04 ` [PATCH 1/3] workqueue: migrate the new worker before add it to idle_list Lai Jiangshan
2014-07-26 3:04 ` [PATCH 2/3] workqueue: use dedicated creater kthread for all pools Lai Jiangshan
2014-07-28 18:55 ` Tejun Heo
2014-07-29 1:26 ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-07-29 2:16 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2014-07-29 9:16 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2 V2] " Lai Jiangshan
2014-07-29 15:04 ` Tejun Heo
2014-07-30 0:32 ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-07-30 3:23 ` Tejun Heo
2014-07-30 3:46 ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-07-30 3:46 ` Tejun Heo
2014-07-26 3:04 ` [PATCH 3/3] workqueue: cleanup may_start_working() Lai Jiangshan
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