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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com, bobby.prani@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 09:36:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140729163647.GS11241@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140729081211.GP20603@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:12:11AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 03:56:12PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > +		/*
> > +		 * Each pass through the following loop scans the list
> > +		 * of holdout tasks, removing any that are no longer
> > +		 * holdouts.  When the list is empty, we are done.
> > +		 */
> > +		while (!list_empty(&rcu_tasks_holdouts)) {
> > +			schedule_timeout_interruptible(HZ / 10);
> > +			flush_signals(current);
> > +			rcu_read_lock();
> > +			list_for_each_entry_rcu(t, &rcu_tasks_holdouts,
> > +						rcu_tasks_holdout_list) {
> > +				if (smp_load_acquire(&t->rcu_tasks_holdout))
> > +					continue;
> > +				list_del_init(&t->rcu_tasks_holdout_list);
> > +				/* @@@ need to check for usermode on CPU. */
> > +			}
> > +			rcu_read_unlock();
> > +		}
> 
> That's a potential CPU runtime sink.. imagine having to scan 100k tasks
> 10 times a second. Polling O(nr_tasks) is not good.

This only scans those tasks that are blocking the RCU-tasks grace period,
and this list should get shorter reasonably quickly as each task does
a voluntary context switch.

Of course, there is the do_each_thread() / while_each_thread() loop
that builds this list, and yes, that does look at each and every task,
as does the subsequent loop that waits for pre-existing partially exited
tasks to disappear from the list.  As noted in an earlier email, I am
taking Steven at his word when he said that updates are very infrequent
and that he doesn't care about the latency and overhead of the updates.

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-29 16:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-28 22:55 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/9] RCU-tasks implementation Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-28 22:56 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks() Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-28 22:56   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 2/9] rcu: Provide cond_resched_rcu_qs() to force quiescent states in long loops Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-29  7:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 16:22       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-29 17:25         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 17:33           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-29 17:36             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 17:37               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 17:55                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-28 22:56   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 3/9] rcu: Add synchronous grace-period waiting for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-28 22:56   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 4/9] rcu: Export RCU-tasks APIs to GPL modules Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-28 22:56   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 5/9] rcutorture: Add torture tests for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-28 22:56   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 6/9] rcutorture: Add RCU-tasks test cases Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-28 22:56   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 7/9] rcu: Add stall-warning checks for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-28 22:56   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 8/9] rcu: Make RCU-tasks track exiting tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-30 17:04     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-30 18:24       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-28 22:56   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 9/9] rcu: Improve RCU-tasks energy efficiency Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-29  7:50   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks() Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 15:57     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-29 16:07       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 16:33         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-29 17:31           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 18:19             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-29 19:25               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 20:11                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-29  8:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 16:36     ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-07-29  8:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  8:14   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 17:23     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-29 17:33       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 18:06         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-30 13:23           ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-30 14:23             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  7:37               ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-31 16:38                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01  2:59                   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-01 15:16                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-30  6:52   ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-07-30 15:07     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-30 13:41   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-30 16:10     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-30 15:49   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-30 16:08     ` Paul E. McKenney

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