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From: Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pjt@google.com, bsegall@google.com,
	arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com, len.brown@intel.com,
	rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com, alan.cox@intel.com,
	mark.gross@intel.com, fengguang.wu@intel.com,
	morten.rasmussen@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 03:16:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140731191638.GG28673@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1406800573-9692-1-git-send-email-vincent.guittot@linaro.org>

Hi Vincent,

On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:56:13AM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> 
> load_sum is now the average runnable time before being weighted
 
So when weight changes, load_avg will completely use new weight. I have
some cents:

1) Task does not change weight much, so it is practically ok

2) Group entity does change weight much, and very likely back and forth,
   so I really think keeping the intact history will make everything
   more predictable/stable, prevent thrashing, etc.

3) If you do the same for cfs_rq->load.weight, then we simply abandoned
   blocked entities, and all states won't compute. So we then need to
   maintain blocked load average again, and we just can't do cfs_rq load
   average as a whole anymore, but must update at the granularity of an
   entity...

Anyway, it does not seem to me you really need to change load_sum, no? So
could you please not change it?

> The sum of usage_sum of the tasks that are on a rq, is used to detect
> the overload of a rq.

I think you only need usage_sum for task and rq, but not cfs_rq. Others
are ok.
 
> Does something like the patch below to be applied of top of your patchset, seem
> reasonable add-on?
> 

If you only add running statistics, I am all good, and indeed reasonable if
you can make good use of it. I am not at all against adding anything or
adding running average or unweighted anything...

Thanks,
Yuyang

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-01  3:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-17 23:26 [PATCH 0/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking Yuyang Du
2014-07-17 23:26 ` [PATCH 1/2 v4] sched: Remove update_rq_runnable_avg Yuyang Du
2014-07-17 23:26 ` [PATCH 2/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking Yuyang Du
2014-07-18  9:43   ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-27 17:36     ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29  9:12       ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-29  1:43         ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:17           ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-29 22:27             ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-30  8:30               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-30  0:40                 ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29  9:39         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  1:53           ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:35             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 15:55               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 23:08               ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-31  9:40             ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-31  9:56             ` [PATCH 2/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average Vincent Guittot
2014-07-31 19:16               ` Yuyang Du [this message]
2014-08-01  9:28                 ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-28 10:48   ` [PATCH 2/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  0:56     ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 11:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  1:09     ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 12:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 13:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 16:58     ` bsegall
2014-07-28 17:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  1:13         ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-18 15:39 ` [PATCH 0/2 " Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-27 19:02   ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-28 10:38     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  1:17       ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:06         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-30 10:13     ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-30 10:21       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-30 10:57         ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-30 19:17       ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-31  8:54         ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-31  2:15           ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-20  5:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-27 19:34   ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-28  7:49     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-28  0:01       ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-28  8:55     ` Peter Zijlstra

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