From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org,
rostedt@goodmis.org, dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com,
dvhart@linux.intel.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
bobby.prani@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 14:57:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140803125758.GA671@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140802230020.GD8101@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On 08/02, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 08:40:59PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 08/01, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 04:11:44PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > > Not sure this makes any sense, but perhaps we can check for the new
> > > > callbacks and start the next gp. IOW, the main loop roughly does
> > > >
> > > > for (;;) {
> > > > list = rcu_tasks_cbs_head;
> > > > rcu_tasks_cbs_head = NULL;
> > > >
> > > > if (!list)
> > > > sleep();
> > > >
> > > > synchronize_sched();
> > > >
> > > > wait_for_rcu_tasks_holdout();
> > > >
> > > > synchronize_sched();
> > > >
> > > > process_callbacks(list);
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > we can "join" 2 synchronize_sched's and do
> > > >
> > > > ready_list = NULL;
> > > > for (;;) {
> > > > list = rcu_tasks_cbs_head;
> > > > rcu_tasks_cbs_head = NULL;
> > > >
> > > > if (!list && !ready_list)
> > > > sleep();
> > > >
> > > > synchronize_sched();
> > > >
> > > > if (ready_list) {
> > > > process_callbacks(ready_list);
> > > > ready_list = NULL;
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > if (!list)
> > > > continue;
> > > >
> > > > wait_for_rcu_tasks_holdout();
> > > > ready_list = list;
> > > > }
> > >
> > > The lack of barriers for the updates I am checking mean that I really
> > > do need a synchronize_sched() on either side of the grace-period wait.
> >
> > Yes,
> >
> > > The grace period needs to guarantee that anything that happened on any
> > > CPU before the start of the grace period happens before anything that
> > > happens on any CPU after the end of the grace period. If I leave off
> > > either synchronize_sched(), we lose this guarantee.
> >
> > But the 2nd variant still has synchronize_sched() on both sides?
>
> Your second variant above? Unless it is in wait_for_rcu_tasks_holdouts(),
> I am not seeing it.
I guess I probably misunderstood you from the very beginning. And now I am
curious what exactly I missed...
The code above doesn't do process_callbacks() after wait_for_rcu_tasks_holdout(),
it does this only after another synchronize_sched(). The only difference is that
we dequeue the next generation of the pending rcu_tasks_cbs_head callbacks.
IOW. Lets look at the current code. Suppose that synchronize_rcu_tasks() is
called when rcu_tasks_kthread() sleeps in wait_for_rcu_tasks_holdout(). In
this case the new wakeme_after_rcu callback will sit in rcu_tasks_cbs_head
until rcu_tasks_kthread() does the 2nd synchronize_sched() + process_callbacks().
Only after that it will be dequeued and rcu_tasks_kthread() will start another gp.
This means that we have 3 synchronize_sched()'s before synchronize_rcu_tasks()
returns.
Do we really need this? With the 2nd variant the new callback will be dequeud
right after wait_for_rcu_tasks_holdout(), and we only have 2 necessary
synchronize_sched()'s around wait_for_rcu_tasks_holdout().
But it seems that I missed something else. Could you please spell?
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-08-03 13:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-31 21:54 [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 0/9 Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55 ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks() Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55 ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 2/9] rcu: Provide cond_resched_rcu_qs() to force quiescent states in long loops Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55 ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 3/9] rcu: Add synchronous grace-period waiting for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 15:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-01 18:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 19:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-02 14:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-02 22:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-06 0:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-06 1:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-06 8:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-06 12:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-06 16:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-06 22:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-07 8:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 15:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-07 15:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 17:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 18:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 19:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-07 19:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-07 20:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 21:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 6:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 14:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 14:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-09 10:56 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-08-08 14:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 14:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 15:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 15:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 16:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 16:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 16:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 16:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 16:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 16:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 16:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-08 16:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 16:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 17:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-08 16:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 16:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 17:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-09 10:36 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-08-07 20:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-31 21:55 ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 4/9] rcu: Export RCU-tasks APIs to GPL modules Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55 ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 5/9] rcutorture: Add torture tests for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55 ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 6/9] rcutorture: Add RCU-tasks test cases Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55 ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 7/9] rcu: Add stall-warning checks for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55 ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 8/9] rcu: Improve RCU-tasks energy efficiency Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55 ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 9/9] documentation: Add verbiage on RCU-tasks stall warning messages Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks() Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-01 2:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 15:06 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-01 1:15 ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-01 1:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 1:31 ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-01 2:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 14:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-01 18:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 18:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-02 23:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-03 12:57 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2014-08-03 22:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 13:29 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-04 13:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 18:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-02 22:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-02 14:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-02 22:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-03 13:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-03 22:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 0:37 ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-04 1:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 13:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-04 13:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 13:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 13:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-04 19:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 19:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-04 1:28 ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-04 7:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-04 8:18 ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-04 11:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 12:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-04 12:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 14:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-05 0:47 ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-05 21:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-06 0:27 ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-06 0:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-06 0:33 ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-06 0:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-06 22:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-07 8:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 15:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-07 16:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 17:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-08 19:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 20:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-09 6:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-09 12:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-09 16:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-09 16:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-09 18:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-09 18:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-10 1:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-10 8:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-11 3:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 11:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-11 16:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-10 1:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-10 8:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-10 16:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-11 3:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 3:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-09 18:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-10 1:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-10 15:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-11 3:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
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