linux-kernel.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com, bobby.prani@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 18:38:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140810013829.GP5821@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140809183355.GP9918@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 08:33:55PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 01:58:26PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > 
> > > And on that, you probably should change rcu_sched_rq() to read:
> > > 
> > > 	this_cpu_inc(rcu_sched_data.passed_quiesce);
> > > 
> > > That avoids touching the per-cpu data offset.
> > 
> > Hmmm...  Interrupts are disabled,
> 
> No they are not, __schedule()->rcu_note_context_switch()->rcu_sched_qs()
> is only called with preemption disabled.
> 
> We only disable IRQs later, where we take the rq->lock.

You want me not to disable irqs before invoking rcu_preempt_qs() from
rcu_preempt_note_context_switch(), I get that.  But right now, they
really are disabled courtesy of the local_irq_save() before the call
to rcu_preempt_qs() from rcu_preempt_note_context_switch().

> > so no need to further disable
> > interrupts.  Storing 1 works fine, no need to increment.  If I followed
> > the twisty per_cpu passages correctly, my guess is that you would like
> > me to do something like this:
> > 
> > 	__this_cpu_write(rcu_sched_data.passed_quiesce, 1);
> > 
> > Does that work?
> 
> Yeah, should be more or less similar, the inc might be encoded shorter
> due to not requiring an immediate, but who cares :-)
> 
> void rcu_sched_qs(int cpu)
> {
> 	if (trace_rcu_grace_period_enabled()) {
> 		if (!__this_cpu_read(rcu_sched_data.passed_quiesce))
> 			trace_rcu_grace_period(...);
> 	}
> 	__this_cpu_write(rcu_sched_data.passed_quiesce, 1);
> }
> 
> Would further avoid emitting the conditional in the normal case where
> the tracepoint is inactive.

It might be better to avoid storing to rcu_sched_data.passed_quiesce when
it is already 1, though the difference would be quite hard to measure.
In that case, this would work nicely:

static void rcu_preempt_qs(int cpu)
{
	if (rdp->passed_quiesce == 0) {
		trace_rcu_grace_period(TPS("rcu_preempt"), rdp->gpnum, TPS("cpuqs"));
	> 	__this_cpu_write(rcu_sched_data.passed_quiesce, 1);
	}
	current->rcu_read_unlock_special &= ~RCU_READ_UNLOCK_NEED_QS;
}

> Steve does it make sense to have __DO_TRACE() emit __trace_##name() to
> avoid the double static_branch thing?
> 
> > > And it would be very good if we could avoid the unconditional IRQ flag
> > > fiddling in rcu_preempt_note_context_switch(), them expensive, this
> > > looks entirely feasibly in the 'normal' case where
> > > t->rcu_read_unlock_special doesn't have RCU_READ_UNLOCK_NEED_QS set.
> > 
> > Agreed, but sometimes RCU_READ_UNLOCK_NEED_QS is set.
> > 
> > That said, I should probably revisit RCU_READ_UNLOCK_NEED_QS.  A lot has
> > changed since I wrote that code.
> 
> Sure, but a conditional testing RCU_READ_UNLOCK_NEED_QS is far cheaper
> than poking the IRQ flags. That said, its not entirely clear to me why
> that needs IRQs disabled at all, then again I didn't look long and I'm
> sure its all subtle.

This bit gets set from the scheduler-clock interrupt, so disabling
interrupts is the standard approach to avoid confusion.  Might be possible
to avoid it in this case, or make it less frequent, or whatever.  As I
said, I haven't thought much about it since the initial implementation
some years back, so worth worrying about again.

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-10  1:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-31 21:54 [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 0/9 Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55 ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks() Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55   ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 2/9] rcu: Provide cond_resched_rcu_qs() to force quiescent states in long loops Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55   ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 3/9] rcu: Add synchronous grace-period waiting for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 15:09     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-01 18:32       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 19:44         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-02 14:47           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-02 22:58             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-06  0:57               ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-06  1:21                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-06  8:47                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-06 12:09                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-06 16:30                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-06 22:45                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-07  8:45                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 15:00                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-07 15:26                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 17:27                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 18:46                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 19:49                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-07 19:53                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-07 20:08                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 21:18                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08  6:40                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 14:12                                               ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 14:28                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-09 10:56                                                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-08-08 14:34                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 14:58                                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 15:16                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 15:39                                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 16:01                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 16:10                                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 16:17                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 16:40                                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 16:52                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 16:27                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 16:39                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-08 16:49                                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 16:51                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 17:09                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-08 16:43                                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 16:50                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 17:27                                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-09 10:36                                                         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-08-07 20:06                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-31 21:55   ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 4/9] rcu: Export RCU-tasks APIs to GPL modules Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55   ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 5/9] rcutorture: Add torture tests for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55   ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 6/9] rcutorture: Add RCU-tasks test cases Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55   ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 7/9] rcu: Add stall-warning checks for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55   ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 8/9] rcu: Improve RCU-tasks energy efficiency Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55   ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 9/9] documentation: Add verbiage on RCU-tasks stall warning messages Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 23:57   ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks() Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-01  2:04     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 15:06       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-01  1:15   ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-01  1:59     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01  1:31   ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-01  2:11     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 14:11   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-01 18:28     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 18:40       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-02 23:00         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-03 12:57           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-03 22:03             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 13:29               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-04 13:48                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 18:57   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-02 22:50     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-02 14:56   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-02 22:57     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-03 13:33       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-03 22:05         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04  0:37           ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-04  1:09             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 13:25               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-04 13:51                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 13:52                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 13:32           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-04 19:28             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 19:32               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-04  1:28   ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-04  7:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-04  8:18       ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-04 11:50         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 12:25           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-04 12:37             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 14:56             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-05  0:47               ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-05 21:55                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-06  0:27                   ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-06  0:48                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-06  0:33                   ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-06  0:51                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-06 22:48                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-07  8:49                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 15:43                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-07 16:32                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 17:48                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-08 19:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 20:58     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-09  6:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-09 12:44         ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-09 16:05           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-09 16:01         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-09 18:19           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-09 18:24             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-10  1:29               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-10  8:14                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-11  3:30                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 11:57                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-11 16:15                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-10  1:26             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-10  8:12               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-10 16:46                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-11  3:28                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11  3:23                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-09 18:33       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-10  1:38         ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-08-10 15:00           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-11  3:37             ` Paul E. McKenney

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20140810013829.GP5821@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
    --to=paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=bobby.prani@gmail.com \
    --cc=dhowells@redhat.com \
    --cc=dipankar@in.ibm.com \
    --cc=dvhart@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=edumazet@google.com \
    --cc=fweisbec@gmail.com \
    --cc=josh@joshtriplett.org \
    --cc=laijs@cn.fujitsu.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com \
    --cc=mingo@kernel.org \
    --cc=oleg@redhat.com \
    --cc=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).