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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, riel@redhat.com, mingo@kernel.org,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, dhowells@redhat.com,
	edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
	oleg@redhat.com, sbw@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 1/2] rcu: Parallelize and economize NOCB kthread wakeups
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 20:45:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140812034531.GA13801@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140811203421.GE5821@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 01:34:21PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 01:48:45AM +0530, Amit Shah wrote:
> > On (Mon) 11 Aug 2014 [13:11:02], Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 01:11:26AM +0530, Amit Shah wrote:
> > > > On (Mon) 11 Aug 2014 [09:28:07], Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:43:08PM +0530, Amit Shah wrote:
> > > > > > On (Fri) 08 Aug 2014 [14:46:48], Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 02:43:47PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 12:04:24AM +0530, Amit Shah wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On (Fri) 08 Aug 2014 [11:18:35], Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > [ . . . ]
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hmmm... What happens if you boot a7d7a143d0b4cb1914705884ca5c25e322dba693
> > > > > > > > > > with the kernel parameter "acpi=off"?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > That doesn't change anything - still hangs.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I intend to look at this more on Monday, though - turning in for
> > > > > > > > > today.  In the meantime, if there's anything else you'd like me to
> > > > > > > > > try, please let me know.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > OK, given that I still cannot reproduce it, I do need your help with
> > > > > > > > the diagnostics.  And so what sorts of diagnostics work for you in
> > > > > > > > the hung state?  Are you able to dump ftrace buffers?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > If you are able to dump ftrace buffers, please enable rcu:rcu_nocb_wake
> > > > > > > > and send me the resulting trace.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > And another random kernel boot parameter to try is rcu_nocb_poll.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Right, this gets the boot going again:
> > > > > 
> > > > > OK, that likely indicates a lost wakeup.  The event tracing enabled by
> > > > > "rcu:rcu_nocb_wake" should help track those down.  Last time, it was qemu
> > > > > losing the wakeups, but maybe it is RCU this time.  ;-)
> > > > 
> > > > The guest goes dead pretty early; is there a trick to enabling and
> > > > getting these traces out of the guest that I don't know of that
> > > > doesn't involve being booted into userspace?  I can perhaps try
> > > > getting the trace output out from a virtio-serial channel; but even
> > > > that driver isn't probed yet when the lockup happens.
> > > 
> > > First boot with the kernel parameter "trace_event=rcu:rcu_nocb_wake".
> > > Then when the system hangs, do "sendkey alt-sysrq-z" at the "(qemu)"
> > > prompt to dump the ftrace buffer.  This hopefully dumps the trace buffer
> > > to dmesg.
> > > 
> > > In addition "sendkey alt-sysrq-t" at the "(qemu)" prompt dumps all tasks'
> > > stacks, which would also likely be useful information.
> > 
> > Nah, this doesn't work -- the guest's totally locked up.  I need a way
> > to continuously dump buffers till the lockup happens, I suppose.
> 
> That is a bit surprising.  Is it possible that the system is OOMing
> quickly due to grace periods not proceeding?  If so, maybe giving the
> VM more memory would help.

Oh, and it is necessary to build the kernel with CONFIG_RCU_TRACE=y
for the rcu_nocb_wake trace events to be enabled in the first place.
I am assuming that your kernel was built with CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ=y.

If all of that is in place and no joy, is it possible to extract the
ftrace buffer from the running/hung guest?  It should be in there
somewhere!  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-12  4:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-07 22:48 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/2] Callback-offloading changes for 3.17 Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-11 13:35 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 1/2] rcu: Parallelize and economize NOCB kthread wakeups Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-11 13:35   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 2/2] rcu: Don't offload callbacks unless specifically requested Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-11 13:47     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-11 15:28       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-08  8:40   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 1/2] rcu: Parallelize and economize NOCB kthread wakeups Amit Shah
2014-08-08 16:25     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-08 17:37       ` Amit Shah
2014-08-08 18:18         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-08 18:34           ` Amit Shah
2014-08-08 21:43             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-08 21:46               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11  7:13                 ` Amit Shah
2014-08-11 16:28                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 19:41                     ` Amit Shah
2014-08-11 20:11                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 20:18                         ` Amit Shah
2014-08-11 20:34                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-12  3:45                             ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-08-12  5:33                               ` Amit Shah
2014-08-12 16:06                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-12 21:39                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-12 21:41                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-12 21:44                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-13  5:44                                       ` Amit Shah
2014-08-13 13:00                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-13 14:18                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-15  5:24                                           ` Amit Shah
2014-08-15 15:04                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-18 17:53                                               ` Amit Shah
2014-08-19  4:01                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-22 12:24                                                   ` Amit Shah
2014-08-22 12:36                                                     ` Amit Shah
2014-08-22 12:56                                                       ` Amit Shah
2014-08-22 14:48                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-22 17:14                                                           ` Amit Shah
2014-08-22 17:37                                                             ` Amit Shah
2014-08-22 21:53                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-22 21:57                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-22 14:43                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-12  5:27                             ` Amit Shah
2014-08-12 16:08                               ` Paul E. McKenney
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-08-23  7:43 Pranith Kumar
2014-08-23 16:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-24  0:26   ` Pranith Kumar
2014-08-24  3:23     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-24  3:39       ` Pranith Kumar
2014-08-24 14:36         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-27  4:43 ` Amit Shah
2014-08-27 16:21   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-27 16:43     ` Pranith Kumar
2014-08-27 17:08       ` Paul E. McKenney

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