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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Frank Mayhar <fmayhar@google.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Sanjay Rao <srao@redhat.com>, Larry Woodman <lwoodman@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] time: drop do_sys_times spinlock
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:40:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140813174048.GV9918@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140813172230.GA6296@redhat.com>

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On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 07:22:30PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 08/12, Rik van Riel wrote:
> >
> > Any other ideas?
> 
> To simplify, lets suppose that we only need sum_exec_runtime.
> 
> Perhaps we can do something like this
> 
> 	u64 thread_group_sched_runtime(void)
> 	{
> 		struct task_struct *tsk = current;
> 		spinlock_t *siglock = &tsk->sighand->siglock; /* stable */
> 		struct task_struct *t;
> 		u64 x1, x2;
> 
> 	retry:
> 		x1 = tsk->signal->sum_sched_runtime;
> 		rmb();
> 		spin_unlock_wait(siglock);
> 		rmb();
> 
> 		x2 = 0;
> 		rcu_read_lock();
> 		for_each_thread(tsk, t)
> 			x2 += task_sched_runtime(t);
> 		rcu_read_unlock();
> 
> 		rmb();
> 		spin_unlock_wait(siglock);
> 		rmb();
> 
> 		if (x1 != tsk->signal->sum_sched_runtime)
> 			goto retry;
> 
> 		return x1 + x2;
> 	}
> 
> ?
> 
> We do not care if for_each_thread() misses the new thread, we can pretend
> thread_group_sched_runtime() was called before clone.
> 
> We do not care if a thread with sum_sched_runtime == 0 exits, obviously.
> 
> Otherwise "x1 != tsk->signal->sum_sched_runtime" should tell us that we
> raced with __exit_signal().

So the problem with the above is the lack of fwd progress; if there's
enough clone()/exit() happening in the thread group (and the more CPUs
the more possible), we'll keep repeating.




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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-08-13 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-12 18:25 [PATCH RFC] time: drop do_sys_times spinlock Rik van Riel
2014-08-12 19:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-12 19:22   ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-12 22:27   ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 17:22     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-13 17:35       ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 18:08         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-13 18:25           ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 18:45             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-13 18:57               ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 21:03               ` [PATCH RFC] time,signal: protect resource use statistics with seqlock Rik van Riel
2014-08-14  0:43                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-14  1:57                   ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-14 13:34                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-14 14:39                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-15  2:52                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-15 14:26                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-15 22:33                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-14 13:22                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 13:38                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-14 13:53                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 17:48                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 18:34                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-15  5:19                     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-15  6:28                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-15  9:37                         ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-15  9:44                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-15 16:36                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-15 16:49                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-15 17:25                             ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-15 18:36                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 14:24                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 15:37                   ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-14 16:12                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 17:36                       ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-14 18:15                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 19:03                           ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-14 19:37                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-15  2:14                       ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-15 14:58                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-13 21:03               ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 17:40       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-08-13 17:50         ` [PATCH RFC] time: drop do_sys_times spinlock Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 17:53           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13  6:59   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-13 11:11     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 13:24       ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 13:39         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 14:09           ` Mike Galbraith

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