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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, dhowells@redhat.com,
	edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
	oleg@redhat.com, bobby.prani@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 tip/core/rcu 15/16] rcu: Make RCU-tasks wait for idle tasks
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:24:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140813182406.GE4752@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140813094305.225a4e1c@ultegra>

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 09:43:05AM -0700, Jacob Pan wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 18:30:15 +0200
> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 07:43:32AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > o	drivers/acpi/acpi_pad.c, power_saving_thread().
> > > 
> > > 	Looks like a kthread that does idle injection.  Currently,
> > > RCU sees it as not a quiescent state.  Would it kill these guys to
> > > 	put in a comment or two about what this is for???
> > > 
> > > 	So adding rcu_idle_enter() and rcu_idle_exit() here might
> > > 	actually fix a bug, though it is not clear how long this
> > > thing actually runs.  If only for a few milliseconds, no harm done.
> > > 
> > 
> > > o	drivers/thermal/intel_powerclamp.c, clamp_thread().
> > > 
> > > 	Looks similar to power_saving_thread(), but for thermal
> > > control. Probably short term, shouldn't be a problem either way.
> > > 
> > 
> > There's patches somewhere that make that go-away
> > 
> >   https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/6/4/56
> > 
> > Jacob was going to look at that.
> 
> yes, it is on my plate, plan to submit for 3.18. the idle period is
> only for a few miliseconds, default to 6ms.

OK, 6ms shouldn't be a problem.  But if you want much longer, you
will need to do rcu_idle_enter() and rcu_idle_exit().  Of course, if
you are getting rid of this entirely, no need to worry -- though the
patch looks like it just uses a different idle loop.

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-13 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-11 22:48 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/16] RCU-tasks implementation Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 22:48 ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/rcu 01/16] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks() Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 22:48   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/rcu 02/16] rcu: Provide cond_resched_rcu_qs() to force quiescent states in long loops Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 22:48   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/rcu 03/16] rcu: Add synchronous grace-period waiting for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 22:48   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/rcu 04/16] rcu: Make TASKS_RCU handle tasks that are almost done exiting Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 22:48   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/rcu 05/16] rcu: Export RCU-tasks APIs to GPL modules Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-14 19:08     ` Pranith Kumar
2014-08-14 21:29       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 22:48   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/rcu 06/16] rcutorture: Add torture tests for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-14 21:34     ` Pranith Kumar
2014-08-14 21:44       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-14 21:49         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 22:48   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/rcu 07/16] rcutorture: Add RCU-tasks test cases Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 22:48   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/rcu 08/16] rcu: Add stall-warning checks for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-14 21:39     ` Pranith Kumar
2014-08-14 21:59       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 22:48   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/rcu 09/16] rcu: Improve RCU-tasks energy efficiency Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-14 21:42     ` Pranith Kumar
2014-08-14 21:55       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-14 22:00         ` Pranith Kumar
2014-08-11 22:48   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/rcu 10/16] documentation: Add verbiage on RCU-tasks stall warning messages Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 22:49   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/rcu 11/16] rcu: Defer rcu_tasks_kthread() creation till first call_rcu_tasks() Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-14 22:28     ` Pranith Kumar
2014-08-14 22:53       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 22:49   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/rcu 12/16] rcu: Make TASKS_RCU handle nohz_full= CPUs Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-14 22:55     ` Pranith Kumar
2014-08-14 23:16       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 22:49   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/rcu 13/16] rcu: Make rcu_tasks_kthread()'s GP-wait loop allow preemption Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 22:49   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/rcu 14/16] rcu: Remove redundant preempt_disable() from rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch() Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-13 10:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 14:07       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-13 14:33         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 20:06           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 22:49   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/rcu 15/16] rcu: Make RCU-tasks wait for idle tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-13  8:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 12:48       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-13 13:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 13:51           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-13 14:07             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 14:13               ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-13 14:43                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-13 16:30                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 16:43                     ` Jacob Pan
2014-08-13 18:24                       ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-08-13 16:35                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 18:25                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-13 14:43                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 20:56             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-13 14:12           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-13 14:42             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 17:24               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 17:30                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 18:16                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 18:20               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-13 18:55                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 19:54                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 22:49   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/rcu 16/16] rcu: Additional information on RCU-tasks stall-warning messages Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-14 20:46   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/rcu 01/16] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks() Pranith Kumar
2014-08-14 21:22     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-12 23:57 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/16] RCU-tasks implementation Paul E. McKenney

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