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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Simon Kirby <sim@hostway.ca>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: net_ns cleanup / RCU overhead
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:46:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140828204658.GL5001@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87oav4l5g9.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 03:33:42PM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Simon Kirby <sim@hostway.ca> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:24:31PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:58:55PM -0700, Simon Kirby wrote:
> >> > Hello!
> >> > 
> >> > In trying to figure out what happened to a box running lots of vsftpd
> >> > since we deployed a CONFIG_NET_NS=y kernel to it, we found that the
> >> > (wall) time needed for cleanup_net() to complete, even on an idle box,
> >> > can be quite long:
> >> > 
> >> > #!/bin/bash
> >> > 
> >> > ip netns delete test >&/dev/null
> >> > while ip netns add test; do
> >> >         echo hi
> >> >         ip netns delete test
> >> > done
> >> > 
> >> > On my desktop and typical hosts, this prints at only around 4 or 6 per
> >> > second. While this is happening, "vmstat 1" reports 100% idle, and there
> >> > there are D-state processes with stacks similar to:
> >> > 
> >> > 30566 [kworker/u16:1] D wait_rcu_gp+0x48, synchronize_sched+0x2f, cleanup_net+0xdb, process_one_work+0x175, worker_thread+0x119, kthread+0xbb, ret_from_fork+0x7c, 0xffffffffffffffff
> >> > 
> >> > 32220 ip              D copy_net_ns+0x68, create_new_namespaces+0xfc, unshare_nsproxy_namespaces+0x66, SyS_unshare+0x159, system_call_fastpath+0x16, 0xffffffffffffffff
> >> > 
> >> > copy_net_ns() is waiting on net_mutex which is held by cleanup_net().
> >> > 
> >> > vsftpd uses CLONE_NEWNET to set up privsep processes. There is a comment
> >> > about it being really slow before 2.6.35 (it avoids CLONE_NEWNET in that
> >> > case). I didn't find anything that makes 2.6.35 any faster, but on Debian
> >> > 2.6.36-5-amd64, I notice it does seem to be a bit faster than 3.2, 3.10,
> >> > 3.16, though still not anything I'd ever want to rely on per connection.
> >> > 
> >> > C implementation of the above: http://0x.ca/sim/ref/tools/netnsloop.c
> >> > 
> >> > Kernel stack "top": http://0x.ca/sim/ref/tools/pstack
> >> > 
> >> > What's going on here?
> >> 
> >> That is a bit slow for many configurations, but there are some exceptions.
> >> 
> >> So, what is your kernel's .config?
> >
> > I was unable to find a config (or stock kernel) that was any different,
> > but here's the one we're using: http://0x.ca/sim/ref/3.10/config-3.10.53
> >
> > How fast does the above test run for you?
> >
> > We've been running with the attached, which has helped a little, but it's
> > still quite slow in our particular use case (vsftpd), and with the above
> n> test. Should I enable RCU_TRACE or STALL_INFO with a low timeout or
> > something?
> 
> I just want to add a little bit more analysis to this.
> 
> What we desire to be fast is the copy_net_ns, cleanup_net is batched and
> asynchronous which nothing really cares how long it takes except that
> cleanup_net holds the net_mutex and thus blocks copy_net_ns.
> 
> The puzzle is why and which rcu delays Simon is seeing in the network
> namespace cleanup path, as it seems like the synchronize_rcu is not
> the only one, and in the case of vsftp with trivail network namespaces
> where nothing has been done we should not need to delay.

Indeed, given the version and .config, I can't see why any individual
RCU grace-period operation would be particularly slow.

I suggest using ftrace on synchronize_rcu() and friends.

							Thanx, Paul

> Eric
> 
> 
> > Simon-
> >
> > -- >8 --
> > Subject: [PATCH] netns: use synchronize_rcu_expedited instead of
> >  synchronize_rcu
> >
> > Similar to ef323088, with synchronize_rcu(), we are only able to create
> > and destroy about 4 or 7 net namespaces per second, which really puts a
> > dent in the performance of programs attempting to use CLONE_NEWNET for
> > privilege separation (vsftpd, chromium).
> > ---
> >  net/core/net_namespace.c |    2 +-
> >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/net/core/net_namespace.c b/net/core/net_namespace.c
> > index 85b6269..6dcb4b3 100644
> > --- a/net/core/net_namespace.c
> > +++ b/net/core/net_namespace.c
> > @@ -296,7 +296,7 @@ static void cleanup_net(struct work_struct *work)
> >  	 * This needs to be before calling the exit() notifiers, so
> >  	 * the rcu_barrier() below isn't sufficient alone.
> >  	 */
> > -	synchronize_rcu();
> > +	synchronize_rcu_expedited();
> >  
> >  	/* Run all of the network namespace exit methods */
> >  	list_for_each_entry_reverse(ops, &pernet_list, list)
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-28 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-20  5:58 net_ns cleanup / RCU overhead Simon Kirby
2014-08-28 19:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-28 19:44   ` Simon Kirby
2014-08-28 20:33     ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-08-28 20:46       ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-08-29  0:40         ` Simon Kirby
2014-08-29  3:57           ` Julian Anastasov
2014-08-29 21:57             ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-08-29 23:52               ` Florian Westphal
2014-08-30  2:56                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-30  8:20               ` Julian Anastasov
2014-08-30  2:52           ` Paul E. McKenney

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