From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Simon Kirby <sim@hostway.ca>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: net_ns cleanup / RCU overhead
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 19:52:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140830025225.GC5001@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140829004029.GA18300@hostway.ca>
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 05:40:29PM -0700, Simon Kirby wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 01:46:58PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 03:33:42PM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> >
> > > I just want to add a little bit more analysis to this.
> > >
> > > What we desire to be fast is the copy_net_ns, cleanup_net is batched and
> > > asynchronous which nothing really cares how long it takes except that
> > > cleanup_net holds the net_mutex and thus blocks copy_net_ns.
> > >
> > > The puzzle is why and which rcu delays Simon is seeing in the network
> > > namespace cleanup path, as it seems like the synchronize_rcu is not
> > > the only one, and in the case of vsftp with trivail network namespaces
> > > where nothing has been done we should not need to delay.
> >
> > Indeed, given the version and .config, I can't see why any individual
> > RCU grace-period operation would be particularly slow.
> >
> > I suggest using ftrace on synchronize_rcu() and friends.
>
> I made a parallel net namespace create/destroy benchmark that prints the
> progress and time to create and cleanup 32 unshare()d child processes:
>
> http://0x.ca/sim/ref/tools/netnsbench.c
>
> I noticed that if I haven't run it for a while, the first batch often is
> fast, followed by slowness from then on:
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------------------------- 0.039478s
> ++++++++++++++++++++-----+----------------+++++++++---------++-- 4.463837s
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++------+--------------------++++++------ 3.011882s
> +++++++++++++++---+-------------++++++++++++++++---------------- 2.283993s
>
> Fiddling around on a stock kernel, "echo 1 > /sys/kernel/rcu_expedited"
> makes behaviour change as it did with my patch:
>
> ++-++-+++-+-----+-+-++-+-++--++-+--+-+-++--++-+-+-+-++-+--++---- 0.801406s
> +-+-+-++-+-+-+-+-++--+-+-++-+--++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+--++-+--- 0.872011s
> ++--+-++--+-++--+-++--+-+-+-+-++-+--++--+-++-+-+-+-+--++-+-+-+-- 0.946745s
>
> How would I use ftrace on synchronize_rcu() here?
http://lwn.net/Articles/370423/ is your friend here. If your kernel
is built with the needed configuration, you give the command
"echo synchronize_rcu > set_ftrace_filter"
http://lwn.net/Articles/365835/ and http://lwn.net/Articles/366796/
have background info.
> As Eric said, cleanup_net() is batched, but while it is cleaning up,
> net_mutex is held. Isn't the issue just that net_mutex is held while
> some other things are going on that are meant to be lazy / batched?
>
> What is net_mutex protecting in cleanup_net()?
>
> I noticed that [kworker/u16:0]'s stack is often:
>
> [<ffffffff810942a6>] wait_rcu_gp+0x46/0x50
> [<ffffffff8109607e>] synchronize_sched+0x2e/0x50
> [<ffffffffa00385ac>] nf_nat_net_exit+0x2c/0x50 [nf_nat]
> [<ffffffff81720339>] ops_exit_list.isra.4+0x39/0x60
> [<ffffffff817209e0>] cleanup_net+0xf0/0x1a0
> [<ffffffff81062997>] process_one_work+0x157/0x440
> [<ffffffff81063303>] worker_thread+0x63/0x520
> [<ffffffff81068b96>] kthread+0xd6/0xf0
> [<ffffffff818d412c>] ret_from_fork+0x7c/0xb0
> [<ffffffffffffffff>] 0xffffffffffffffff
>
> and
>
> [<ffffffff81095364>] _rcu_barrier+0x154/0x1f0
> [<ffffffff81095450>] rcu_barrier+0x10/0x20
> [<ffffffff81102c2c>] kmem_cache_destroy+0x6c/0xb0
> [<ffffffffa0089e97>] nf_conntrack_cleanup_net_list+0x167/0x1c0 [nf_conntrack]
> [<ffffffffa008aab5>] nf_conntrack_pernet_exit+0x65/0x70 [nf_conntrack]
> [<ffffffff81720353>] ops_exit_list.isra.4+0x53/0x60
> [<ffffffff817209e0>] cleanup_net+0xf0/0x1a0
> [<ffffffff81062997>] process_one_work+0x157/0x440
> [<ffffffff81063303>] worker_thread+0x63/0x520
> [<ffffffff81068b96>] kthread+0xd6/0xf0
> [<ffffffff818d412c>] ret_from_fork+0x7c/0xb0
> [<ffffffffffffffff>] 0xffffffffffffffff
>
> So I tried flushing iptables rules and rmmoding netfilter bits:
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++-+--------------------+++++++++++----------- 0.179940s
> ++++++++++++++--+-------------+++++++++++++++++----------------- 0.151988s
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---+--------------------------+++--- 0.159967s
> ++++++++++++++++++++++----------------------++++++++++---------- 0.175964s
>
> Expedited:
>
> ++-+--++-+-+-+-+-+-+--++-+-+-++-+-+-+--++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+--- 0.079988s
> ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+--++-+--++-+--+-++-+-+--++-+-+-+-+-+-+-- 0.089347s
> ++++--+++--++--+-+++++++-+++++--------------++-+-+--++-+-+--++-- 0.081566s
> +++++-+++-------++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+--- 0.089026s
>
> So, much faster. It seems that just loading nf_conntrack_ipv4 (like by
> running iptables -t nat -nvL) is enough to slow it way down. But it is
> still capable of being fast, as above.
My first guess is that this code sequence is calling synchronize_rcu()
quite often. Would it be possible to consolidate these?
Thanx, Paul
prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-08-30 2:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-20 5:58 net_ns cleanup / RCU overhead Simon Kirby
2014-08-28 19:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-28 19:44 ` Simon Kirby
2014-08-28 20:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-08-28 20:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-29 0:40 ` Simon Kirby
2014-08-29 3:57 ` Julian Anastasov
2014-08-29 21:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-08-29 23:52 ` Florian Westphal
2014-08-30 2:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-30 8:20 ` Julian Anastasov
2014-08-30 2:52 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
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