From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>
Cc: Azael Avalos <coproscefalo@gmail.com>,
Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>,
"platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org"
<platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] toshiba_acpi: Add accelerometer input polled device
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 18:35:53 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140909013553.GC16363@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140909000429.GB5835@vmdeb7>
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 05:04:30PM -0700, Darren Hart wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 11:04:18PM -0600, Azael Avalos wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > 2014-09-05 20:42 GMT-06:00 Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>:
> > > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 11:14:05AM -0600, Azael Avalos wrote:
> > >> The accelerometer sensor is very sensitive, and having userspace
> > >> poll the sysfs position entry is not very battery friendly.
> > >>
> > >> This patch removes the sysfs entry and instead, it creates an
> > >> input polled device (joystick) for the built-in accelerometer.
> > >
> > > Hrm, while sysfs details can change across kernel versions, usually due to
> > > driver core changes, we try to keep them as consistent as possible so as not to
> > > break userspace.
> > >
> > > That said, if we are going to try and come up with a better model for
> > > representing an accelerometer, wouldn't treating it as an IIO device be the more
> > > logical approach?
> >
> > Yes of course, but the actual accelerometer device (sensor?) is not
> > really exposed,
> > only certain "functions" it provides, and they are divided across two
> > different ACPI devices,
> > TOS620A exposes the protection, and the TOS1900 (and et. al.) only
> > exposes the axes.
>
> As I understand it, IIO defines an interface to a device, a standard sysfs set
> of properties. I should think we could provide the appropriate callbacks even
> for a partially implemented (or a pair of) accelerometer.
>
> Jonathan, what are your thoughts here. Is such a "device" (ACPI accessors to
> axis and threshold) a candidate for IIO, or is this input polled device more
> appropriate?
>
> >
> > I see your point in breaking userspace, but given the fact that it was
> > recently introduced,
> > I didn't thought it was already "adopted", that's why I decided to
> > remove the sysfs entry.
>
> Looks like since 3.15 if I read the log correctly. That is fairly recent and
> this is not one of the "defined interfaces" in the sysfs documentation.
>
> Greg, can you weigh in here - does this change count as "breaking userspace", or
> is this more inline with the scheduler knobs in /proc/sched_debug which can
> change from version to version.
>
> >
> > Then we might as well keep the sysfs entry and have the input polled
> > device as well.
>
> Let's see what Greg has to say. If he isn't bothered by the change, I won't push
> the issue.
If it should be an IIO device, great, make it an IIO device, and move
away from a custom sysfs interface that matches nothing else.
But I really doubt it should be a joystick device, that just doesn't
make sense at all.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-09 1:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-05 17:14 [PATCH 0/5] toshiba_acpi: Various changes plus fixes Azael Avalos
2014-09-05 17:14 ` [PATCH 1/5] toshiba_acpi: Additional hotkey scancodes Azael Avalos
2014-09-09 0:12 ` Darren Hart
2014-09-05 17:14 ` [PATCH 2/5] toshiba_acpi: Fix illumination not available on certain models Azael Avalos
2014-09-06 2:35 ` Darren Hart
2014-09-06 4:49 ` Azael Avalos
2014-09-09 0:09 ` Darren Hart
2014-09-05 17:14 ` [PATCH 3/5] toshiba_acpi: Add accelerometer input polled device Azael Avalos
2014-09-06 2:42 ` Darren Hart
2014-09-06 5:04 ` Azael Avalos
2014-09-09 0:04 ` Darren Hart
2014-09-09 1:35 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2014-09-10 3:35 ` Darren Hart
2014-09-10 15:28 ` Azael Avalos
2014-09-10 16:08 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-09-17 16:36 ` Jonathan Cameron
2014-09-17 18:38 ` Darren Hart
2014-09-05 17:14 ` [PATCH 4/5] toshiba_acpi: Support new keyboard backlight type Azael Avalos
2014-09-10 4:11 ` Darren Hart
2014-09-10 16:52 ` Azael Avalos
2014-09-10 18:34 ` Darren Hart
2014-09-05 17:14 ` [PATCH 5/5] toshiba_acpi: Change touchpad store to check for invalid values Azael Avalos
2014-09-10 4:17 ` Darren Hart
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