From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] printk: git rid of [sched_delayed] message for printk_deferred
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:22:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140916212250.GI1205@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140916170709.73ef2993@gandalf.local.home>
On Tue 16-09-14 17:07:09, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 22:35:10 +0200
> Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
>
> > On Tue 16-09-14 11:13:31, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > > On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 16:42:52 +0200
> > > Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > > commit 458df9fd hardcodes printk_deferred() to KERN_WARNING and inserts
> > > > the string "[sched_delayed] " before the actual message.
> > > > However it doesn't take into account the KERN_* prefix of the message,
> > > > that now ends up in the middle of the output:
> > > >
> > > > [sched_delayed] ^a4CE: hpet increased min_delta_ns to 20115 nsec
> > > >
> > > > Fix this by just getting rid of the "[sched_delayed] " scnprintf().
> > >
> > > I prefer the "[sched_delayed]" output. It lets us know that the output
> > > did not come out immediately, which is important sometimes during
> > > debugging. Otherwise it can confuse people, as printk is suppose to be
> > > a blocking write.
> > This is a common misconception about printk. It isn't a blocking write
> > for ten years or more. If there happens to be someone else printing to
> > console, the difference between printk() and printk_deferred() is
> > marginal - it used to be bigger when scheduler had its own buffer but these
> > days message is inserted in the kernel ring buffer immediately. That's why
> > I don't think the prefix is useful anymore.
>
> For the most part it's a blocking write. Yeah, if another CPU is
> writing, it wont be a blocking write, but it usually is, I know I
> depend on it (when I'm debugging, I usually don't have contention
> between CPUs). The important part is that they are done in order. A
> delayed print, wont be in order with other printks. That is still a
> crucial difference.
printk_deffered() will be in order with other printks after your commit
458df9fd4815b47809875d57f42e16401674b621. Just printing to console itself
will be delayed to the next timer interrupt. Or am I missing something?
Honza
--
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-16 21:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-14 5:09 Weird character in kernel message Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-14 5:54 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-14 9:13 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-09-15 16:37 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-16 10:55 ` Jan Kara
2014-09-16 14:42 ` [PATCH] printk: git rid of [sched_delayed] message for printk_deferred Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-16 15:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-16 15:20 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-16 19:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-16 19:17 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-16 20:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-16 20:35 ` Jan Kara
2014-09-16 21:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-16 21:22 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2014-09-16 21:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-17 14:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-17 14:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-17 22:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-18 0:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-18 17:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-20 5:12 ` Jan Kara
2014-09-20 15:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-20 16:34 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-20 15:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-20 16:10 ` Joe Perches
2014-09-20 16:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-20 18:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-20 18:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24 11:01 ` Jan Kara
2014-09-24 11:11 ` [PATCH v2] " Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-24 11:26 ` Jan Kara
2014-09-24 11:37 ` [PATCH v3] " Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-24 15:12 ` Steven Rostedt
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2014-09-24 15:20 [PATCH] " Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-24 15:35 ` Steven Rostedt
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