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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] printk: git rid of [sched_delayed] message for printk_deferred
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:22:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140916212250.GI1205@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140916170709.73ef2993@gandalf.local.home>

On Tue 16-09-14 17:07:09, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 22:35:10 +0200
> Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue 16-09-14 11:13:31, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > > On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 16:42:52 +0200
> > > Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > commit 458df9fd hardcodes printk_deferred() to KERN_WARNING and inserts
> > > > the string "[sched_delayed] " before the actual message.
> > > > However it doesn't take into account the KERN_* prefix of the message,
> > > > that now ends up in the middle of the output:
> > > > 
> > > >  [sched_delayed] ^a4CE: hpet increased min_delta_ns to 20115 nsec
> > > > 
> > > > Fix this by just getting rid of the "[sched_delayed] " scnprintf().
> > > 
> > > I prefer the "[sched_delayed]" output. It lets us know that the output
> > > did not come out immediately, which is important sometimes during
> > > debugging. Otherwise it can confuse people, as printk is suppose to be
> > > a blocking write.
> >   This is a common misconception about printk. It isn't a blocking write
> > for ten years or more. If there happens to be someone else printing to
> > console, the difference between printk() and printk_deferred() is
> > marginal - it used to be bigger when scheduler had its own buffer but these
> > days message is inserted in the kernel ring buffer immediately. That's why
> > I don't think the prefix is useful anymore.
> 
> For the most part it's a blocking write. Yeah, if another CPU is
> writing, it wont be a blocking write, but it usually is, I know I
> depend on it (when I'm debugging, I usually don't have contention
> between CPUs). The important part is that they are done in order. A
> delayed print, wont be in order with other printks. That is still a
> crucial difference.
  printk_deffered() will be in order with other printks after your commit
458df9fd4815b47809875d57f42e16401674b621. Just printing to console itself
will be delayed to the next timer interrupt. Or am I missing something?

								Honza

-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-16 21:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-14  5:09 Weird character in kernel message Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-14  5:54 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-14  9:13   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-09-15 16:37     ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-16 10:55       ` Jan Kara
2014-09-16 14:42         ` [PATCH] printk: git rid of [sched_delayed] message for printk_deferred Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-16 15:13           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-16 15:20             ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-16 19:14               ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-16 19:17                 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-16 20:26                   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-16 20:35             ` Jan Kara
2014-09-16 21:07               ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-16 21:22                 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2014-09-16 21:33                   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-17 14:18                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-17 14:22                       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-17 22:36                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-18  0:31                           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-18 17:34                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-20  5:12                               ` Jan Kara
2014-09-20 15:32                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-20 16:34                                   ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-20 15:47                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-20 16:10                                   ` Joe Perches
2014-09-20 16:30                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-20 18:08                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-20 18:01                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24 11:01                                   ` Jan Kara
2014-09-24 11:11                                     ` [PATCH v2] " Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-24 11:26                                       ` Jan Kara
2014-09-24 11:37                                         ` [PATCH v3] " Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-24 15:12                                           ` Steven Rostedt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-09-24 15:20 [PATCH] " Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-24 15:35 ` Steven Rostedt

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