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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] printk: git rid of [sched_delayed] message for printk_deferred
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 07:12:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140920051224.GA5573@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140918173414.GU2840@worktop.localdomain>

On Thu 18-09-14 19:34:14, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 08:31:35PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > I totally didn't get what you wrote.
> 
> :-)
> 
> > We don't want to know if it got delayed, then the patch to remove that
> > print seems correct.
> 
> Why would you not want to know that? Also was that the actual argument?
> Lemme go check the earlier emails -- I cannot find that argument in the
> first few emails.
  Well, so what gets delayed is printing from kernel buffer to console.
So this is the same as when you do printk() when console lock is taken by
someone else. So it seems a bit strange to prepend [delayed] in some cases
and not in others.

Another question is what the [delayed] prefix would be useful for? If the
message eventually gets printed to console I don't see why you would care
it was printed few ms after it entered the kernel buffer (after all the
time stamp before the line will be the time when it entered the kernel
buffer). And if the kernel crashes in such a way that the message doesn't
get printed, then bad luck but prefix in the kernel log buffer isn't going
to make that any better :)

This all feels like bikeshedding, I don't deeply care what gets done but I
wanted to point out I don't really see a use for [delayed]...

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-20  5:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-14  5:09 Weird character in kernel message Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-14  5:54 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-14  9:13   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-09-15 16:37     ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-16 10:55       ` Jan Kara
2014-09-16 14:42         ` [PATCH] printk: git rid of [sched_delayed] message for printk_deferred Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-16 15:13           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-16 15:20             ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-16 19:14               ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-16 19:17                 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-16 20:26                   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-16 20:35             ` Jan Kara
2014-09-16 21:07               ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-16 21:22                 ` Jan Kara
2014-09-16 21:33                   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-17 14:18                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-17 14:22                       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-17 22:36                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-18  0:31                           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-18 17:34                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-20  5:12                               ` Jan Kara [this message]
2014-09-20 15:32                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-20 16:34                                   ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-20 15:47                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-20 16:10                                   ` Joe Perches
2014-09-20 16:30                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-20 18:08                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-20 18:01                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24 11:01                                   ` Jan Kara
2014-09-24 11:11                                     ` [PATCH v2] " Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-24 11:26                                       ` Jan Kara
2014-09-24 11:37                                         ` [PATCH v3] " Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-24 15:12                                           ` Steven Rostedt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-09-24 15:20 [PATCH] " Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-09-24 15:35 ` Steven Rostedt

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