From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.debian@gmx.de>,
"Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
John McCutchan <john@johnmccutchan.com>,
Robert Love <rlove@rlove.org>, Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>,
Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fs: don't remove inotify watchers from alive inode-s (v2)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 10:30:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140925083010.GA3096@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140924131947.bc083e7f34981bbf73a364f1@linux-foundation.org>
On Wed 24-09-14 13:19:47, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 12:51:55 +0200 Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Andrew, what do you think about the patch below? Al objected that it
> > changes userspace visible behavior some time ago and then he didn't react
> > to our explanations...
>
> Difficult situation. There's some really important information missing
> from the changelog:
>
> - Who cares? Is there some real application which is hurting from
> the current situation? If so, who, what, how and why. If not, then
> why change anything?
I believe Openvz guys hit this in their application but I'll defer to
them for more details.
> - A description of the userspace API change impact. How did the
> interface change? What is the risk of this change causing damage to
> real applications?
I believe this was covered in the changelog. Without the patch depending
on the order of unlinks for hardlinked file you sometimes get events:
4 (IN_ATTRIB)
400 (IN_DELETE_SELF)
8000 (IN_IGNORED)
and sometimes you get events:
4 (IN_ATTRIB)
<possibly more events happening for unlinked file>
8 (IN_CLOSE_WRITE)
400 (IN_DELETE_SELF)
8000 (IN_IGNORED)
With the patch you'll always have the second case. So without the patch you
don't receive some events if the file has at least 2 hardlinks and then
gets unlinked. I think the risk that some application relies on *not* getting
those events is pretty low (especially since in the common case of file
without hardlinks you will get all those events).
Honza
--
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-25 8:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-19 15:45 [PATCH] fs: don't remove inotify watchers from alive inode-s (v2) Andrey Vagin
2014-09-19 15:56 ` [PATCH] inotify.7: describe ambiguous behaviour of IN_DELETE_SELF Andrey Vagin
2014-09-19 16:15 ` [PATCH] fs: don't remove inotify watchers from alive inode-s (v2) Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-09-24 10:51 ` Jan Kara
2014-09-24 20:19 ` Andrew Morton
2014-09-25 8:30 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2014-09-25 20:38 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-10-02 10:45 ` Jan Kara
2014-10-02 19:44 ` Andrew Morton
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