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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, ilya.dryomov@inktank.com,
	umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/11] sched: Debug nested sleeps
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 20:35:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141001183549.GA3382@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141001161058.GE2843@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 10/01, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:47:32PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> > > > This is minor, but this way CONFIG_DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP will not imply
> > > > a subtle behavioural change.
> > >
> > > You mean the __set_current_state() that's extra?
> >
> > Yes, and note that it only does __set_current_state(RUNNING) if
> > CONFIG_DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP. This means that disabling/enabling this
> > option can, silently hide/uncover a bug.
> >
> > > I would actually argue
> > > to keep that since it makes the 'problem' much worse.
> >
> > OK, I won't insist, but could you explain why the suggested change can
> > make the problem (and which problem ;) worse?
>
> Sure, so the trivial problem is not actually going to sleep in the outer
> wait primitive because the inner wait primitive reset ->state to
> TASK_RUNNING.

But this means that fixup_sleep() must not be used?

> So by always setting the ->state to TASK_RUNNING it never goes to sleep
> and it'll revert to spinning,

But I tried to suggest to not set TASK_RUNNING?


Peter, I am sorry for wasting your time, this is really minor, but still
I'd like to understand.

Let me try again. With this series we have

	#ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP
	#define fixup_sleep()	__set_current_state(TASK_RUNNING)
	#else
	#define fixup_sleep()	do { } while (0)
	#endif

and this means that we do not need __set_current_state(RUNNING) for
correctness, just we want to shut up the warning in __might_sleep().
This is fine (and the self-documenting helper is nice), but this means
that CONFIG_DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP adds a subtle difference.

For example, let's suppose that we do not have 01/11 which fixes
mutex_lock(). Then this code

	set_current_state(TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE);
	...
	fixup_sleep();
	...
	mutex_lock(some_mutex);

can hang, but only if !CONFIG_DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP.

So perhaps it makes sense to redefine it

	#ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP
	#define fixup_sleep()	(current->task_state_change = 0)
	#else
	#define fixup_sleep()	do { } while (0)
	#endif

and change __might_sleep()

	-	if (WARN(current->state != TASK_RUNNING,
	+	if (WARN(current->state != TASK_RUNNING && current->task_state_change != 0,

?

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-01 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-24  8:18 [PATCH 00/11] nested sleeps, fixes and debug infrastructure Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 01/11] locking/mutex: Dont assume TASK_RUNNING Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 11:09   ` [tip:sched/core] locking/mutex: Don't " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 02/11] wait: Provide infrastructure to deal with nested blocking Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-29 21:02   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-02  7:37     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-02 21:21       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-28 11:09   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/wait: " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 03/11] wait: Add might_sleep() Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 11:09   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/wait: Add might_sleep() checks tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 04/11] exit: Deal with nested sleeps Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 11:10   ` [tip:sched/core] sched, " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 05/11] inotify: " Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 11:10   ` [tip:sched/core] sched, " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 06/11] tty: " Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 11:10   ` [tip:sched/core] sched, " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 07/11] smp: Correctly deal " Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 11:11   ` [tip:sched/core] sched, " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 08/11] module: Fix nested sleep Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-29 22:18   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-30 13:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 11:11   ` [tip:sched/core] sched, modules: Fix nested sleep in add_unformed_module() tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 09/11] net: Clean up sk_wait_event() vs might_sleep() Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 11:11   ` [tip:sched/core] sched, net: Clean up sk_wait_event() vs. might_sleep() tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 10/11] sched: Debug nested sleeps Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-29 22:13   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-30 13:49     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-30 21:47       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-01 16:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-01 18:35           ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2014-10-02  9:07             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-02 21:34               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-28 11:11   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 11/11] sched: Exclude cond_resched() from nested sleep test Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 11:12   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-25  8:30 ` [PATCH 00/11] nested sleeps, fixes and debug infrastructure Mike Galbraith
2014-09-25  9:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-25  9:10     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-09-25  9:15     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-25  9:56       ` Mike Galbraith
2014-09-25 13:59         ` BUG: sleeping function called from invalid context at drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c:370 Mike Galbraith
2014-09-26  6:24           ` Mike Galbraith
2014-09-26  7:54             ` Mike Galbraith
2014-09-26 14:10               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-26 22:44               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-27  6:14                 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-09-27 19:57                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-02 10:22       ` [PATCH 00/11] nested sleeps, fixes and debug infrastructure Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-02 12:15         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-27 13:41           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28  0:07             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-28  8:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-29  0:00                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-29  9:35                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-29 11:31                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-29 11:36                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-29 14:26                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-04 16:08         ` [tip:sched/core] audit, sched/wait: Fixup kauditd_thread() wait loop tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra

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