From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
Maxim Patlasov <mpatlasov@parallels.com>,
Anand Avati <avati@gluster.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Michael j Theall <mtheall@us.ibm.com>,
fuse-devel <fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] fuse: handle release synchronously (v4)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:22:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141018182241.GE7996@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyU2NgXYZSnNBwMR_ZyFuKzHna2NBBhwd6iev0uaEdqKA@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 08:40:05AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > Look around for AIO. Look around for the loop driver. Look around for
> > a number of things that do "fget()" and that you completely ignored.
>
> .. actually, there are more instances of "get_file()" than of
> "fget()", the aio one just happened to be the latter form. Lots and
> lots of ways to get ahold of a file descriptor that keeps it open past
> the "last close".
FWIW, procfs patch touches a very annoying issue: ->show_fdinfo() being
blocking. I would really like to get rid of that particular get_file()
and even more so - of get_files_struct() in there.
I certainly agree that anyone who expects that close() means the end of IO
is completely misguided. Mappings don't disappear on close(), neither does
a descriptor returned by dup(), or one that child got over fork(),
or something sent over in SCM_RIGHTS datagram, or, as you suggested, made
backing store for /dev/loop, etc.
What's more, in the example given upthread, somebody might've spotted that
file in /proc/<pid>/fd/* and *opened* it. At which point umount would
have to fail with EBUSY. And the same lsof(8) might've done just that.
It's not a matter of correctness or security, especially since somebody who
could do that, could've stopped your process, PTRACE_POKEd a fairly short
series of syscalls that would connect to AF_UNIX socket, send the file
over to them and clean after itself, then single-stepped through all of that,
restored the original state and resumed your process.
It is a QoI matter, though. And get_files_struct() in there is a lot more
annoying than get_file()/fput(). Suppose you catch the process during
exit(). All of a sudden, read from /proc/<pid>/fdinfo/<n> ends up doing
shitloads of filp_close(). It would be nice to avoid that.
Folks, how much pain would it be to make ->show_fdinfo() non-blocking?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-18 18:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-25 12:05 [PATCH 0/5] fuse: handle release synchronously (v4) Maxim Patlasov
2014-09-25 12:05 ` [PATCH 1/5] fuse: add FOPEN_SYNC_RELEASE flag to ff->open_flags Maxim Patlasov
2014-09-25 12:05 ` [PATCH 2/5] fuse: cosmetic rework of fuse_send_readpages Maxim Patlasov
2014-09-25 12:06 ` [PATCH 3/5] fuse: wait for end of IO on release Maxim Patlasov
2014-09-25 12:06 ` [PATCH 4/5] fuse: add mount option to disable synchronous release Maxim Patlasov
2014-09-25 12:07 ` [PATCH 5/5] fuse: enable close_wait " Maxim Patlasov
2014-09-26 15:28 ` [PATCH 0/5] fuse: handle release synchronously (v4) Miklos Szeredi
2014-09-30 3:15 ` Miklos Szeredi
2014-09-30 3:55 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <CAFboF2yhGyjk4e_CHQV5b2WvB-QhsWNyHvFiFG_OM_=3-KArLQ@mail.gmail.com>
2014-09-30 7:43 ` Miklos Szeredi
2014-09-30 18:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-09-30 19:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-09-30 19:19 ` Miklos Szeredi
2014-09-30 20:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-01 3:47 ` Miklos Szeredi
2014-10-01 11:28 ` Maxim Patlasov
2014-10-09 8:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2014-10-16 10:31 ` Maxim Patlasov
2014-10-16 13:43 ` Miklos Szeredi
2014-10-16 13:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-17 8:55 ` Miklos Szeredi
2014-10-18 15:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-18 15:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-18 18:01 ` Miklos Szeredi
2014-10-18 18:24 ` Al Viro
2014-10-18 18:45 ` Al Viro
2014-10-18 18:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-18 18:22 ` Al Viro [this message]
2014-10-18 22:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
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