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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com, bobby.prani@gmail.com,
	Clark Williams <clark.williams@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 4/7] rcu: Unify boost and kthread priorities
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:51:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141031165143.GN10501@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141031164229.GY5718@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 09:42:30AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:

> Well, you are supposed to determine the highest RT priority at which
> your workload might run CPU-bound tasks, and set the boost priority
> at some level above that.  My model of RCU priority boosting is that
> it should be used to make inadvertent high-priority infinite loops
> easier to debug, but others might have different approaches.

Ah, so DL will never be CPU-bound -- and RR/FIFO _should_ never be, but
I digress ;-)

> > We should be able to detect the case where more and work piles on and
> > the actual running does not appear to catch up, but I'm not sure what to
> > do about it, seeing how system stability is at risk.
> 
> I could imagine having a backup SCHED_FIFO task that handled the
> case where callbacks were piling up, but synchronizing it with the
> SCHED_DEADLINE task while avoiding callback misordering could be a bit
> "interesting".  (Recall that callback misordering messes up rcu_barrier().)

Ah, so there is talk of 'soft' CBS modes, which instead of hard throttle
either reclaim 'unused' DL bandwidth, or continue running in lower scheduling
classes.



  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-31 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-28 22:22 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/7] Real-time updates for 3.19 Paul E. McKenney
2014-10-28 22:22 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 1/7] init/Kconfig: move RCU_NOCB_CPU dependencies to choice Paul E. McKenney
2014-10-28 22:22   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 2/7] rcu: Move RCU_BOOST variable declarations, eliminating #ifdef Paul E. McKenney
2014-10-28 22:22   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 3/7] rcu: Avoid IPIing idle CPUs from synchronize_sched_expedited() Paul E. McKenney
2014-10-29 10:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-29 15:56       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-10-28 22:22   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 4/7] rcu: Unify boost and kthread priorities Paul E. McKenney
2014-10-29 11:01     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-29 16:16       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-10-31 16:22         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-31 16:42           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-10-31 16:51             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-10-31 16:57               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-10-28 22:23   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 5/7] rcu: Remove redundant TREE_PREEMPT_RCU config option Paul E. McKenney
2014-10-28 22:23   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 6/7] rcu: Kick rcuo kthreads after their CPU goes offline Paul E. McKenney
2014-10-28 22:23   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 7/7] rcu: Fix for rcuo online-time-creation reorganization bug Paul E. McKenney

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