From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Vince Weaver <vince@deater.net>,
Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFD] perf syscall error handling
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:27:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141110102725.GA19309@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141103170059.GC18464@kernel.org>
* Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org> wrote:
> Em Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 05:50:19PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra escreveu:
> > On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 02:25:48PM -0200, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
>
> > > The way that peterz suggested, i.e. returning information about which
> > > perf_event_attr and which of the parameters was invalid/had issues could
> > > help with fallbacking/capability querying, i.e. tooling may want to use
> > > some features if available automagically, fallbacking to something else
> > > when that fails.
>
> > > We already do that to some degree in various cases, but for some if the
> > > only way that becomes available to disambiguate some EINVAL return is a
> > > string, code will start having strcmps :-\
>
> > OK, so how about we do both, the offset+mask for the tools
> > and the string for the humans?
>
> Yeah, tooling tries to provide the best it can with the
> offset+mask, and if doesn't manage to do anything smart with
> it, just show the string and hope that helps the user to figure
> out what is happening.
Almost: tooling should generally always consider the string as
well, for the (not so uncommon) case where there can be multiple
problems with the same field.
Really, I think the string will give the most bang for the buck,
because it's really simple and straightforward on the kernel side
(so that we have a good chance of achieving full coverage
relatively quickly), and later on we could still complicate it
all with offset+mask if there's really a need.
So lets start with an error string...
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-10 10:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-30 22:28 [RFD] perf syscall error handling Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-31 1:16 ` Vince Weaver
2014-10-31 7:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-31 9:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-10-31 12:28 ` Matt Fleming
2014-10-31 21:22 ` Stephane Eranian
2014-11-01 5:30 ` Vince Weaver
2014-11-03 16:25 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-11-03 16:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-03 17:00 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-11-03 17:12 ` Vince Weaver
2014-11-03 17:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-10 10:27 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2014-11-10 12:15 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-11-10 12:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-11-10 13:54 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-11-10 14:14 ` David Ahern
2014-11-10 14:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-11-10 10:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-10-31 10:00 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
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