From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: "alexander.duyck@gmail.com" <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
Cc: "linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>,
Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Michael Ellerman <michael@ellerman.id.au>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arch: Introduce read_acquire()
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:47:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141111194734.GL16265@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141111185510.2181.75347.stgit@ahduyck-workstation.home>
Hello,
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 06:57:05PM +0000, alexander.duyck@gmail.com wrote:
> From: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@redhat.com>
>
> In the case of device drivers it is common to utilize receive descriptors
> in which a single field is used to determine if the descriptor is currently
> in the possession of the device or the CPU. In order to prevent any other
> fields from being read a rmb() is used resulting in something like code
> snippet from ixgbe_main.c:
>
> if (!ixgbe_test_staterr(rx_desc, IXGBE_RXD_STAT_DD))
> break;
>
> /*
> * This memory barrier is needed to keep us from reading
> * any other fields out of the rx_desc until we know the
> * RXD_STAT_DD bit is set
> */
> rmb();
>
> On reviewing the documentation and code for smp_load_acquire() it occured
> to me that implementing something similar for CPU <-> device interraction
> would be worth while. This commit provides just the load/read side of this
> in the form of read_acquire(). This new primative orders the specified
> read against any subsequent reads. As a result we can reduce the above
> code snippet down to:
>
> /* This memory barrier is needed to keep us from reading
> * any other fields out of the rx_desc until we know the
> * RXD_STAT_DD bit is set
> */
> if (!(read_acquire(&rx_desc->wb.upper.status_error) &
Minor nit on naming, but load_acquire would match what we do with barriers,
where you simply drop the smp_ prefix if you want the thing to work on UP
systems too.
> cpu_to_le32(IXGBE_RXD_STAT_DD)))
> break;
I'm not familiar with the driver in question, but how are the descriptors
mapped? Is the read barrier here purely limiting re-ordering of normal
memory accesses by the CPU? If so, isn't there also scope for store_release
when updating, e.g. next_to_watch in the same driver?
We also need to understand how this plays out with
smp_mb__after_unlock_lock, which is currently *only* implemented by PowerPC.
If we end up having a similar mess to mmiowb, where PowerPC both implements
the barrier *and* plays tricks in its spin_unlock code, then everybody
loses because we'd end up with release doing the right thing anyway.
Peter and I spoke with Paul at LPC about strengthening
smp_load_acquire/smp_store_release so that release->acquire ordering is
maintained, which would allow us to drop smp_mb__after_unlock_lock
altogether. That's stronger than acquire/release in C11, but I think it's
an awful lot easier to use, particularly if device drivers are going to
start using these primitives.
Thoughts?
Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-11 19:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-11 18:57 [PATCH] arch: Introduce read_acquire() alexander.duyck
2014-11-11 19:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-11-11 20:45 ` Alexander Duyck
2014-11-12 10:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-12 10:10 ` Will Deacon
2014-11-12 15:42 ` Alexander Duyck
2014-11-11 19:47 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2014-11-11 21:12 ` Alexander Duyck
2014-11-12 10:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-12 15:23 ` Alexander Duyck
2014-11-12 15:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-12 19:24 ` Alexander Duyck
2014-11-12 20:43 ` David Miller
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