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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Boaz Harrosh <ooo@electrozaur.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH vfs 2/2] {block|char}_dev: remove inode->i_devices
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 07:30:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141118123027.GD7809@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <546B374A.1010902@electrozaur.com>

Hey, Boaz.

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 02:10:50PM +0200, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
> Right? well if so than those special inodes do
> not hold any data and never do IO of any kind
> so all the inode members that are needed for IO
> are candidates.

It may not carry dirty pages but the inode itself still can get
dirtied tho.

> example: i_wb_list; i_lru; i_dio_count i_writecount

So, neither i_wb_list or i_lru can be used.  It could be that some of
the atomic counters can be used but that requires collecting four such
counters consecutively.

> i_dquot (when QUOTA is on) i_private and more

If quota is off?  i_private maybe but it's not big enough.

> Even union with the "cgroup writback support" you
> want to add.

Again, these inodes can get dirtied.

I think unions are okay when lifetime rules clearly separate how the
field is used or the usages are contained in a logical unit but
overloading random fields which may be used across lifetime in a data
structure which is as widely used and abused as inode is likely to
lead to later headaches.

This is really something special and local {block|char}_dev are doing
which doens't have to interfere with anything else.  I think it's a
better approach to confine it to {block|char}_dev in the long term
even if that means carrying a bit more code.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-18 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-13 22:09 [PATCH vfs 1/2] lib: implement ptrset Tejun Heo
2014-11-13 22:11 ` [PATCH vfs 2/2] {block|char}_dev: remove inode->i_devices Tejun Heo
2014-11-18 12:10   ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-11-18 12:30     ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2014-11-20 10:42   ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-11-20 11:50     ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-20 12:36       ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-11-20 13:11         ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-20 13:39           ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-20 14:14           ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-11-20 14:19             ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-13 22:23 ` [PATCH vfs 1/2] lib: implement ptrset Andrew Morton
2014-11-13 22:27   ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-13 22:40     ` Andrew Morton
2014-11-14 13:12       ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-18 20:46         ` Andrew Morton
2014-11-18  9:19 ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-11-18 11:55   ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-19  1:41     ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-11-18 15:56 ` Azat Khuzhin
2014-11-18 17:16   ` Tejun Heo
2014-11-18 17:49 ` [PATCH vfs v2 " Tejun Heo
2014-11-25 16:37 ` [PATCH vfs " Jan Kara
2014-12-02 18:15   ` Tejun Heo

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