From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>, "X86 ML" <x86@kernel.org>,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@redhat.com>,
"Tony Luck" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
"Andi Kleen" <andi@firstfloor.org>,
"Josh Triplett" <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] x86, traps: Track entry into and exit from IST context
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 15:38:34 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141121233834.GW5050@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXgd=5+RFugdi4CdCOzULK8u+ku-EQaJvY6JhXAMEW7rQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 03:06:48PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Paul E. McKenney
> <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 02:19:17PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Paul E. McKenney
> >> <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 01:32:50PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> >> >> > We currently pretend that IST context is like standard exception
> >> >> > context, but this is incorrect. IST entries from userspace are like
> >> >> > standard exceptions except that they use per-cpu stacks, so they are
> >> >> > atomic. IST entries from kernel space are like NMIs from RCU's
> >> >> > perspective -- they are not quiescent states even if they
> >> >> > interrupted the kernel during a quiescent state.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Add and use ist_enter and ist_exit to track IST context. Even
> >> >> > though x86_32 has no IST stacks, we track these interrupts the same
> >> >> > way.
> >> >>
> >> >> I should add:
> >> >>
> >> >> I have no idea why RCU read-side critical sections are safe inside
> >> >> __do_page_fault today. It's guarded by exception_enter(), but that
> >> >> doesn't do anything if context tracking is off, and context tracking
> >> >> is usually off. What am I missing here?
> >> >
> >> > Ah! There are three cases:
> >> >
> >> > 1. Context tracking is off on a non-idle CPU. In this case, RCU is
> >> > still paying attention to CPUs running in both userspace and in
> >> > the kernel. So if a page fault happens, RCU will be set up to
> >> > notice any RCU read-side critical sections.
> >> >
> >> > 2. Context tracking is on on a non-idle CPU. In this case, RCU
> >> > might well be ignoring userspace execution: NO_HZ_FULL and
> >> > all that. However, as you pointed out, in this case the
> >> > context-tracking code lets RCU know that we have entered the
> >> > kernel, which means that RCU will again be paying attention to
> >> > RCU read-side critical sections.
> >> >
> >> > 3. The CPU is idle. In this case, RCU is ignoring the CPU, so
> >> > if we take a page fault when context tracking is off, life
> >> > will be hard. But the kernel is not supposed to take page
> >> > faults in the idle loop, so this is not a problem.
> >>
> >> I guess so, as long as there are really no page faults in the idle loop.
> >
> > As far as I know, there are not. If there are, someone needs to let
> > me know! ;-)
> >
> >> There are, however, machine checks in the idle loop, and maybe kprobes
> >> (haven't checked), so I think this patch might fix real bugs.
> >
> > If you can get ISTs from the idle loop, then the patch is needed.
> >
> >> > Just out of curiosity... Can an NMI occur in IST context? If it can,
> >> > I need to make rcu_nmi_enter() and rcu_nmi_exit() deal properly with
> >> > nested calls.
> >>
> >> Yes, and vice versa. That code looked like it handled nesting
> >> correctly, but I wasn't entirely sure.
> >
> > It currently does not, please see below patch. Are you able to test
> > nesting? It would be really cool if you could do so -- I have no
> > way to test this patch.
>
> I can try. It's sort of easy -- I'll put an int3 into do_nmi and add
> a fixup to avoid crashing.
>
> What should I look for? Should I try to force full nohz on and assert
> something? I don't really know how to make full nohz work.
You should look for the WARN_ON_ONCE() calls in rcu_nmi_enter() and
rcu_nmi_exit() to fire.
Thanx, Paul
> >> Also, just to make sure: are we okay if rcu_nmi_enter() is called
> >> before exception_enter if context tracking is on and we came directly
> >> from userspace?
> >
> > If I understand correctly, this will result in context tracking invoking
> > rcu_user_enter(), which will result in the rcu_dynticks counter having an
> > odd value. In that case, rcu_nmi_enter() will notice that RCU is already
> > paying attention to this CPU via its check of atomic_read(&rdtp->dynticks)
> > & 0x1), and will thus just return. The matching rcu_nmi_exit() will
> > notice that the nesting count is zero, and will also just return.
> >
> > Thus, everything works in that case.
> >
> > In contrast, if rcu_nmi_enter() was invoked from the idle loop, it
> > would see that RCU is not paying attention to this CPU and that the
> > NMI nesting depth (which rcu_nmi_enter() increments) used to be zero.
> > It would then atomically increment rtdp->dynticks, forcing RCU to start
> > paying attention to this CPU. The matching rcu_nmi_exit() will see
> > that the nesting count was non-zero, but became zero when decremented.
> > This will cause rcu_nmi_exit() to atomically increment rtdp->dynticks,
> > which will tell RCU to stop paying attention to this CPU.
> >
> > Thanx, Paul
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > rcu: Make rcu_nmi_enter() handle nesting
> >
> > Andy Lutomirski is introducing ISTs into x86, which from RCU's
> > viewpoint are NMIs. Because ISTs and NMIs can nest, rcu_nmi_enter()
> > and rcu_nmi_exit() must now correctly handle nesting. As luck would
> > have it, rcu_nmi_exit() handles nesting but rcu_nmi_enter() does not.
> > This patch therefore makes rcu_nmi_enter() handle nesting.
>
> Thanks. Should I add this to v5 of my series?
>
> --Andy
>
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tree.c b/kernel/rcu/tree.c
> > index 8749f43f3f05..875421aff6e3 100644
> > --- a/kernel/rcu/tree.c
> > +++ b/kernel/rcu/tree.c
> > @@ -770,7 +770,8 @@ void rcu_nmi_enter(void)
> > if (rdtp->dynticks_nmi_nesting == 0 &&
> > (atomic_read(&rdtp->dynticks) & 0x1))
> > return;
> > - rdtp->dynticks_nmi_nesting++;
> > + if (rdtp->dynticks_nmi_nesting++ != 0)
> > + return; /* Nested NMI/IST/whatever. */
> > smp_mb__before_atomic(); /* Force delay from prior write. */
> > atomic_inc(&rdtp->dynticks);
> > /* CPUs seeing atomic_inc() must see later RCU read-side crit sects */
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Andy Lutomirski
> AMA Capital Management, LLC
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-21 23:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-21 21:26 [PATCH v4 0/5] x86: Rework IST interrupts Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-21 21:26 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] uprobes, x86: Fix _TIF_UPROBE vs _TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-22 16:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-24 17:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-21 21:26 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] x86, traps: Track entry into and exit from IST context Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-21 21:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-21 22:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-21 22:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-21 22:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-21 23:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-21 23:38 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-11-22 2:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-22 4:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-22 5:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-22 23:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-24 20:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-24 20:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-24 21:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-24 21:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-24 22:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-24 22:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-24 22:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-24 23:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-24 23:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-24 23:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-24 23:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-25 18:58 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-25 19:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-12-11 0:22 ` Tony Luck
2014-12-11 0:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-05 21:46 ` Tony Luck
2015-01-05 21:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-06 0:44 ` [PATCH] x86, mce: Get rid of TIF_MCE_NOTIFY and associated mce tricks Luck, Tony
2015-01-06 1:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-06 18:00 ` Luck, Tony
2015-01-07 12:13 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-01-07 15:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-07 15:58 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-01-07 16:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-25 17:13 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] x86, traps: Track entry into and exit from IST context Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-27 7:03 ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-11-27 16:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-24 21:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-21 22:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-21 22:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-22 17:20 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-24 19:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-22 21:52 ` Sasha Levin
2015-01-23 17:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-23 18:04 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-01-23 18:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-23 20:48 ` Sasha Levin
2015-01-24 1:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-28 16:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-28 17:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-28 21:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-30 19:57 ` Sasha Levin
2015-01-31 1:28 ` Sasha Levin
2015-01-31 3:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-31 12:50 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-31 13:01 ` [PATCH] x86, traps: Fix ist_enter from userspace Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-31 15:09 ` Sasha Levin
2015-01-31 16:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-01 2:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-04 6:01 ` [tip:x86/asm] " tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-21 21:26 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] x86, entry: Switch stacks on a paranoid entry " Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-24 15:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-21 21:26 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] x86: Clean up current_stack_pointer Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-24 11:39 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-21 21:26 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] x86, traps: Add ist_begin_non_atomic and ist_end_non_atomic Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-24 15:54 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-24 19:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
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