From: Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
To: Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 06/30] s390: Introduce cputime64_to_nsecs()
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 14:58:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141201145830.24d3e43e@mschwide> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141201122452.GE4074@osiris>
On Mon, 1 Dec 2014 13:24:52 +0100
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 07:23:36PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > This will be needed for the conversion of kernel stat to nsecs.
> >
> > Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
> > Cc: Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
> > Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
> > Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
> > Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
> > Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> > Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> > Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> > Cc: Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
> > Cc: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
> > ---
> > arch/s390/include/asm/cputime.h | 5 +++++
> > 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/s390/include/asm/cputime.h b/arch/s390/include/asm/cputime.h
> > index 820b38a..75ba96f 100644
> > --- a/arch/s390/include/asm/cputime.h
> > +++ b/arch/s390/include/asm/cputime.h
> > @@ -59,6 +59,11 @@ static inline cputime64_t jiffies64_to_cputime64(const u64 jif)
> > return (__force cputime64_t)(jif * (CPUTIME_PER_SEC / HZ));
> > }
> >
> > +static inline u64 cputime64_to_nsecs(cputime64_t cputime)
> > +{
> > + return (__force u64)cputime * CPUTIME_PER_USEC * NSEC_PER_USEC;
> > +}
> > +
>
> This is incorrect. You probably wanted to write something like
>
> return (__force u64)cputime / CPUTIME_PER_USEC * NSEC_PER_USEC; ?
>
> However we would still lose a lot of precision.
> The correct algorithm to convert from cputime to nanoseconds can be found in
> tod_to_ns() - see arch/s390/include/asm/timex.h
>
> And if you see that rather complex algorithm, I doubt we want to have the
> changes you propose. We need to have that calculation three times for each
> irq (user, system and steal time) and would still have worse precision than
> we have right now. Not talking about the additional wasted cpu cycles...
>
> But I guess Martin wanted to comment on your patches anyway ;)
The function that gets called most often is the accounting code for irq_enter
and irq_exit. Both are mapped to vtime_account_irq_enter, with the correct
implementation for the cputime_to_nsec the function gets 15 instructions
longer. The relevant code sequence
Upstream code:
10592e: e3 10 02 e8 00 04 lg %r1,744
105934: b2 09 f0 a0 stpt 160(%r15)
105938: e3 30 f0 a0 00 04 lg %r3,160(%r15)
10593e: e3 10 02 d8 00 08 ag %r1,728
105944: e3 30 02 e8 00 24 stg %r3,744
10594a: b9 09 00 13 sgr %r1,%r3
10594e: e3 10 02 d8 00 24 stg %r1,728
105954: b9 04 00 41 lgr %r4,%r1
105958: e3 40 c0 68 00 09 sg %r4,104(%r12)
10595e: e3 30 02 e0 00 04 lg %r3,736
105964: b9 09 00 34 sgr %r3,%r4
105968: b9 04 00 54 lgr %r5,%r4
10596c: e3 30 02 e0 00 24 stg %r3,736
105972: a7 39 00 00 lghi %r3,0
105976: e3 10 c0 68 00 24 stg %r1,104(%r12)
10597c: b9 04 00 b4 lgr %r11,%r4
105980: c0 e5 00 03 78 4c brasl %r14,174a18 <account_system_time
Patched code:
105a3e: e3 50 02 e8 00 04 lg %r5,744
105a44: b2 09 f0 a0 stpt 160(%r15)
105a48: b9 04 00 15 lgr %r1,%r5
105a4c: e3 50 f0 a0 00 04 lg %r5,160(%r15)
105a52: e3 50 02 e8 00 24 stg %r5,744
105a58: e3 10 02 d8 00 08 ag %r1,728
105a5e: b9 e9 50 51 sgrk %r5,%r1,%r5
105a62: e3 00 02 e0 00 04 lg %r0,736
105a68: e3 50 02 d8 00 24 stg %r5,728
105a6e: b9 04 00 15 lgr %r1,%r5
105a72: e3 10 a0 68 00 09 sg %r1,104(%r10)
105a78: b9 04 00 e1 lgr %r14,%r1
105a7c: b9 04 00 81 lgr %r8,%r1
105a80: eb 11 00 20 00 0c srlg %r1,%r1,32
105a86: ec 3e 20 bf 00 55 risbg %r3,%r14,32,191,0
105a8c: eb 91 00 02 00 0d sllg %r9,%r1,2
105a92: eb c3 00 07 00 0d sllg %r12,%r3,7
105a98: eb b1 00 07 00 0d sllg %r11,%r1,7
105a9e: eb 43 00 02 00 0d sllg %r4,%r3,2
105aa4: b9 09 00 b9 sgr %r11,%r9
105aa8: b9 e9 40 4c sgrk %r4,%r12,%r4
105aac: b9 08 00 43 agr %r4,%r3
105ab0: b9 08 00 1b agr %r1,%r11
105ab4: b9 e9 e0 30 sgrk %r3,%r0,%r14
105ab8: eb 11 00 17 00 0d sllg %r1,%r1,23
105abe: e3 30 02 e0 00 24 stg %r3,736
105ac4: eb 44 00 09 00 0c srlg %r4,%r4,9
105aca: e3 50 a0 68 00 24 stg %r5,104(%r10)
105ad0: b9 08 00 41 agr %r4,%r1
105ad4: b9 04 00 54 lgr %r5,%r4
105ad8: a7 39 00 00 lghi %r3,0
105adc: c0 e5 00 03 78 02 brasl %r14,174ae0 <account_system_time
The function is called two times for each interrupt and accounts
the system time only, that makes 2 * 15 instructions more for each
interrupt, while loosing a small amount of precision. Imho not good.
The idea of cputime_t was to allow an architecture to define its preferred
format, for s390 this is a pure CPU timer delta. We do not loose *any*
precision as long as the CPU timer works correctly. From my point of view
this is a change for the worse.
On the positive side, there are some nice improvements in the patch
series. We will definitely pick up some of the patches.
--
blue skies,
Martin.
"Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-12-01 13:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-28 18:23 [RFC PATCH 00/30] cputime: Convert task/cpu cputime accounting to nsecs Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 01/30] jiffies: Remove HZ > USEC_PER_SEC special case Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 02/30] time: Introduce jiffies64_to_nsecs() Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 03/30] cputime: Introduce nsecs_to_cputime64() Frederic Weisbecker
2014-12-01 14:05 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 04/30] s390: Convert open coded idle time seqcount Frederic Weisbecker
2014-12-01 13:46 ` Heiko Carstens
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 05/30] s390: Translate cputime magic constants to macros Frederic Weisbecker
2014-12-01 13:47 ` Heiko Carstens
2014-12-01 16:23 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 06/30] s390: Introduce cputime64_to_nsecs() Frederic Weisbecker
2014-12-01 12:24 ` Heiko Carstens
2014-12-01 13:58 ` Martin Schwidefsky [this message]
2014-12-01 16:23 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 07/30] cputime: Convert kcpustat to nsecs Frederic Weisbecker
2014-12-01 14:14 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2014-12-01 16:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-12-01 16:48 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2014-12-01 17:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-12-01 17:27 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2014-12-01 19:59 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-12-01 20:14 ` Christian Borntraeger
2014-12-01 20:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 08/30] apm32: Fix cputime == jiffies assumption Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 09/30] alpha: Fix jiffies based cputime assumption Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 10/30] cputime: Convert guest time accounting to nsecs Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 11/30] cputime: Special API to return old-typed cputime Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 12/30] cputime: Convert task/group cputime to nsecs Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 13/30] alpha: Convert obsolete cputime_t " Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 14/30] x86: Convert obsolete cputime type " Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 15/30] isdn: " Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 16/30] binfmt: " Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 17/30] acct: " Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 18/30] delaycct: " Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 19/30] tsacct: " Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 20/30] signal: " Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 21/30] cputime: Remove task_cputime_t_scaled Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 22/30] u64_stats_sync: Introduce preempt-unsafe readers Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 23/30] cputime: Convert irq_time_accounting to use u64_stats_sync Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 24/30] cputime: Increment kcpustat directly on irqtime account Frederic Weisbecker
2014-12-01 14:41 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2014-12-01 16:15 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-12-01 16:50 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 25/30] cputime: Remove temporary irqtime states Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 26/30] cputime: Push time to account_user_time() in nanosecs Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 27/30] cputime: Push time to account_steal_time() " Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 28/30] cputime: Push time to account_idle_time() " Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 29/30] cputime: Push time to account_guest_time() " Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-28 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 30/30] cputime: Push time to account_system_time() " Frederic Weisbecker
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