From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Shaohua Li <shli@fb.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
kernel-team@fb.com, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] X86: Add a thread cpu time implementation to vDSO
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 07:36:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141211063621.GC5059@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXpVUVY6paKJq0Uq8VeHG2A0E3qc4b_H+5ZT-QJApkaJw@mail.gmail.com>
* Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Shaohua Li <shli@fb.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 02:13:23PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Shaohua Li <shli@fb.com> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:10:52AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Shaohua Li <shli@fb.com> wrote:
> >> >> > This primarily speeds up clock_gettime(CLOCK_THREAD_CPUTIME_ID, ..). We
> >> >> > use the following method to compute the thread cpu time:
> >> >>
> >> >> I like the idea, and I like making this type of profiling fast. I
> >> >> don't love the implementation because it's an information leak (maybe
> >> >> we don't care) and it's ugly.
> >> >>
> >> >> The info leak could be fixed completely by having a per-process array
> >> >> instead of a global array. That's currently tricky without wasting
> >> >> memory, but it could be created on demand if we wanted to do that,
> >> >> once my vvar .fault patches go in (assuming they do -- I need to ping
> >> >> the linux-mm people).
> >> >
> >> > those info leak really doesn't matter.
> >>
> >> Why not?
> >
> > Ofcourse I can't make sure completely, but how could this
> > info be used as attack?
>
> It may leak interesting timing info, even from cpus that are
> outside your affinity mask / cpuset. I don't know how much
> anyone actually cares.
Finegraned timing information has been successfully used to
recover secret keys (and sometimes even coarse timing
information), so it can be a security issue in certain setups.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-12-11 6:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-12-08 3:03 [PATCH 1/3] X86: make VDSO data support multiple pages Shaohua Li
2014-12-08 3:03 ` [PATCH 2/3] X86: add a generic API to let vdso code detect context switch Shaohua Li
2014-12-10 18:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-10 18:51 ` Shaohua Li
2014-12-10 19:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-10 19:41 ` Shaohua Li
2014-12-08 3:03 ` [PATCH 3/3] X86: Add a thread cpu time implementation to vDSO Shaohua Li
2014-12-10 19:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-10 21:57 ` Shaohua Li
2014-12-10 22:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-10 22:56 ` Shaohua Li
2014-12-10 23:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-11 6:36 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2014-12-15 18:36 ` Chris Mason
2014-12-15 18:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-10 18:36 ` [PATCH 1/3] X86: make VDSO data support multiple pages Andy Lutomirski
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