From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751568AbaLSQFu (ORCPT ); Fri, 19 Dec 2014 11:05:50 -0500 Received: from bh-25.webhostbox.net ([208.91.199.152]:55806 "EHLO bh-25.webhostbox.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751062AbaLSQFs (ORCPT ); Fri, 19 Dec 2014 11:05:48 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 08:02:37 -0800 From: Guenter Roeck To: Lukasz Majewski Cc: Sjoerd Simons , Eduardo Valentin , Kamil Debski , Jean Delvare , lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org, Linux PM list , "linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org" , devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Lukasz Majewski , Kukjin Kim , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Sylwester Nawrocki Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9] hwmon: dts: Doc: Add DTS doc to explain how to use PWM FAN as a cooling device Message-ID: <20141219160237.GA2199@roeck-us.net> References: <1418897591-18332-1-git-send-email-l.majewski@samsung.com> <1418897591-18332-3-git-send-email-l.majewski@samsung.com> <1418899337.23532.9.camel@collabora.co.uk> <20141219163224.34796e5d@amdc2363> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20141219163224.34796e5d@amdc2363> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Authenticated_sender: guenter@roeck-us.net X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-CTCH-PVer: 0000001 X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020204.54944CDB.0521,ss=1,re=0.001,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-CTCH-Score: 0.001 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-CTCH-Rules: C_4847, X-CTCH-SenderID: linux@roeck-us.net X-CTCH-SenderID-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalMessages: 12 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalSpam: 0 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalSuspected: 0 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalConfirmed: 0 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalBulk: 0 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalVirus: 0 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalRecipients: 0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - bh-25.webhostbox.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - vger.kernel.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - roeck-us.net X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: bh-25.webhostbox.net: mailgid no entry from get_relayhosts_entry X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 04:32:24PM +0100, Lukasz Majewski wrote: > Hi Sjoerd, > > Thanks for your feedback and sorry for a late reply. > > > On Thu, 2014-12-18 at 11:13 +0100, Lukasz Majewski wrote: > > > Several new properties to allow PWM fan working as a cooling device > > > have been combined into this single commit. > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Lukasz Majewski > > > --- > > > .../devicetree/bindings/hwmon/pwm-fan.txt | 28 > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 28 insertions(+) > > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/hwmon/pwm-fan.txt > > > b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/hwmon/pwm-fan.txt index > > > 610757c..3877810 100644 --- > > > a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/hwmon/pwm-fan.txt +++ > > > b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/hwmon/pwm-fan.txt @@ -3,10 > > > +3,38 @@ Bindings for a fan connected to the PWM lines Required > > > properties: > > > - compatible : "pwm-fan" > > > - pwms : the PWM that is used to control the PWM fan > > > +- cooling-pwm-values : PWM duty cycle values relative to > > > + cooling-max-pwm-value correspondig to > > > + proper cooling states > > > +- default-pulse-width : Property specifying default pulse > > > width for FAN > > > + at system boot (zero to disable FAN on > > > boot). > > > + Allowed range is 0 to 255 > > > > The 0..255 range seems somewhat random. Would be nicer to either use > > the approach of pwm-backlight (iotw, have the range go from the first > > to the last entry of cooling-pwm-values) > > I'm OK to change the default-pulse-width to be similar to > "default-brightness-level" (as it is in > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/video/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt) > > > or simply have be the duty > > lenght in NS as entries instead of the current indirection. > > I'd prefer to keep the indirection - as it is utilized in the current > pwm-fan.c driver. > FWIW, devicetree information is supposed to be implementation independent. So this is a poor argument. > > Enabling pan to full RPM was the default behaviour in the current > pwm-fan.c file. > > To be honest, there is no need to enable fan to full RPM speed in this > board for following reasons: > 1. In Odroid the FAN is optional (stacked on top of a heat sink) - very > often it is just enough to only have the heat sink. > > 2. Odroid has thermal enabled by default and IMHO it would be more > feasible to allow thermal to control fan from the very beginning. > > However, I can also understand if the policy for hwmon implies a rule > to enable by default all fans to full RPM speed. > Why and how does that all suggest that the current default behavior should be changed ? Guenter