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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>
Cc: marc.zyngier@arm.com, rmk+kernel@arm.linux.org.uk,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert 9fc2105aeaaf56b0cf75296a84702d0f9e64437b to fix pyaudio (and probably more)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 21:10:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150104201026.GA23427@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.11.1501041438130.18844@knanqh.ubzr>

On Sun 2015-01-04 15:03:02, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Pavel Machek wrote:
> 
> > 9fc2105aeaaf56b0cf75296a84702d0f9e64437b breaks audio in python, and
> > probably elsewhere, with message
> > 
> > FATAL: cannot locate cpu MHz in /proc/cpuinfo
> > 
> > I'm not the first one to hit it, see for example
> > 
> > https://theredblacktree.wordpress.com/2014/08/10/fatal-cannot-locate-cpu-mhz-in-proccpuinfo/
> > https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/765800/workaround-for-fatal-cannot-locate-cpu-mhz-in-proc-cpuinf/?offset=1
> > 
> > Reading original changelog, I have to say "Stop breaking working
> > setups. You know who you are!".
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
> 
> NAK.
> 
> No setups actually relying on this completely fony bogomips value 
> bearing no links to hardware reality coule have been qualified as 
> "working".

You broke python-pyaudio in Debian 7.7, which is pretty new version...
I'm not saying something relies on the _exact_ value there, but the
change is bad.

> The bogomips entry was removed from /proc/cpuinfo in 2013.  We're now in 
> 2015.  You're apparently the first to suggest moving the kernel back to 
> providing random values via /proc/cpuinfo.  So this removal must not 
> have inconvenienced that many people in the end.

Take a look at links above. One broken system would be
enough... people noticed but did not complain on lkml.

> Broken applications appear to have been fixed already as mentioned via 
> those links you provided above.  So if you want a working setup, you may 
> stick with a kernel of the same vintage as your user space apps or 
> update the later.

That is not how kernel development should work. See

https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/23/75

> If that is still unacceptable to you for whatever reason, then the least 
> wrong compromize should be:
> 
> 	seq_printf(m, "BogoMIPS\t: 1.00\n");
> 
> That'D allow for those broken applications to run while making clear 
> that the provided value is phony. I was about to suggest 0.00 but that 
> could trigger a divide by zero error somewhere I suppose.

I don't know what 1.00 will cause, and neither do you, so what about
simply reverting the bad patch?
								Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-04 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-04 19:01 [PATCH] Revert 9fc2105aeaaf56b0cf75296a84702d0f9e64437b to fix pyaudio (and probably more) Pavel Machek
2015-01-04 20:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-04 20:10   ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2015-01-04 20:25     ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-04 20:37       ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-04 20:56         ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-04 21:02           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-04 21:20             ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-04 21:26               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-04 21:40                 ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-04 22:27                   ` Aaro Koskinen
2015-01-05  1:34                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-01-05 12:32                   ` Will Deacon
2015-01-05  4:51                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-05 12:11                   ` Will Deacon
2015-01-05 15:34                     ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-05 16:24                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-07 18:11                   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-07 18:47                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-07 19:00                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-07 19:36                         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-07 20:34                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-07 20:53                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-07 21:15                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-09 22:54                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-01-07 22:14                               ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08  0:05                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-08  0:45                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-08  0:57                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-08  4:56                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-08  5:04                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-08  5:54                                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-08 10:39                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-08 15:44                                   ` Vince Weaver
2015-01-08 16:19                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 16:34                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-08 16:41                                         ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 16:57                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-08 17:01                                             ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 17:39                                               ` Vince Weaver
2015-01-08 17:22                                             ` Vince Weaver
2015-01-08 22:46                                             ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-09  9:49                                               ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 16:32                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                             ` <CA+55aFwuO2g1S-bY96V28crMWj+dKXWANzbP28JQjBdTg0rV0w@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-07 21:29                               ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]                                 ` <CA+55aFyrNE9qqBR9Khbj=TuAnjA+UzUhNxFz==SqKuiG5q3uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-07 22:42                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-08  0:25                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-08  0:49                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-07 22:24                           ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-07 18:50                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-08 22:49                   ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-06 18:33         ` Will Deacon
2015-01-04 20:22   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-04 20:43     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-04 20:52       ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-04 20:45     ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-04 20:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-04 21:15         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-05 14:22           ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-01-05 18:22             ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-06 22:33               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-06 23:42                 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-07  1:20                   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-07 15:01                     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 13:29                       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-01-07  6:41                   ` Nicolas Pitre

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