From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCHSET 00/37] perf tools: Speed-up perf report by using multi thread (v1)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 19:48:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150105184811.GQ2915@two.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1419405333-27952-1-git-send-email-namhyung@kernel.org>
Thanks for working on this. Haven't read any code, just
some high level comments on the design.
>
> So my approach is like this:
>
> Partially do stage 1 first - but only for meta events that changes
> machine state. To do this I add a dummy tracking event to perf record
> and make it collect such meta events only. They are saved in a
> separate file (perf.header) and processed before sample events at perf
> report time.
Can't you just use seek to put the offset into the perf.data header
like it's already done for other sections? Managing another file would be
a big change for users and especially is a problem if the data
is moved between different systems.
Also I thought Adrian's meta data index already addressed this
at least partially.
>
> This also requires to handle multiple files and to find a
> corresponding machine state when processing samples. On a large
> profiling session, many tasks were created and exited so pid might be
> recycled (even more than once!). To deal with it, I managed to have
> thread, map_groups and comm in time sorted. The only remaining thing
> is symbol loading as it's done lazily when sample requires it.
FWIW there's often a lot of unnecessary information in this
(e.g. mmaps that are not used). The Quipper page
claims large saving in data files by avoided redundancies.
It would be probably better if perf record avoided writing redundant
information better (I realize that's not easy)
>
> With that being done, the stage 2 can be done by multiple threads. I
> also save each sample data (per-cpu or per-thread) in separate files
> during record. On perf report time, each file will be processed by
> each thread. And symbol loading is protected by a mutex lock.
I really don't like the multiple files. See above. Also it could easily
cause additional seeking on spinning disks.
Isn't it fast enough to have a single thread that pre scans
the events (perhaps with some single-thread optimizations
like vectorization), and then load balances the work to
a thread pool?
BTW I suspect if you used cilk plus or a similar library that
would make the code much simpler.
> Here is the result:
>
> This is just elapsed (real) time measured by shell 'time' function.
>
> The data file was recorded during kernel build with fp callchain and
> size is 2.1GB. The machine has 6 core with hyper-threading enabled
> and I got a similar result on my laptop too.
>
> time perf report --children --no-children + --call-graph none
> ---------- ------------- -------------------
> current 4m43.260s 1m32.779s 0m35.866s
> patched 4m43.710s 1m29.695s 0m33.995s
> --multi-thread 2m46.265s 0m45.486s 0m7.570s
>
>
> This result is with 7.7GB data file using libunwind for callchain.
Nice results!
-Andi
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2014-12-24 7:14 [RFC/PATCHSET 00/37] perf tools: Speed-up perf report by using multi thread (v1) Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:14 ` [PATCH 01/37] perf tools: Set attr.task bit for a tracking event Namhyung Kim
2014-12-31 11:25 ` Jiri Olsa
2014-12-24 7:14 ` [PATCH 02/37] perf record: Use a software dummy event to track task/mmap events Namhyung Kim
2014-12-26 16:27 ` David Ahern
2014-12-27 5:28 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-29 12:58 ` Adrian Hunter
2014-12-30 5:51 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-30 9:04 ` Adrian Hunter
2014-12-24 7:14 ` [PATCH 03/37] perf tools: Use perf_data_file__fd() consistently Namhyung Kim
2014-12-26 16:30 ` David Ahern
2014-12-27 5:30 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 04/37] perf tools: Add multi file interface to perf_data_file Namhyung Kim
2014-12-25 22:08 ` Jiri Olsa
2014-12-26 1:19 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-31 11:26 ` Jiri Olsa
2014-12-31 14:55 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 05/37] perf tools: Create separate mmap for dummy tracking event Namhyung Kim
2014-12-25 22:08 ` Jiri Olsa
2014-12-26 1:45 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-25 22:09 ` Jiri Olsa
2014-12-26 1:55 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-26 16:51 ` David Ahern
2014-12-27 5:32 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-29 13:44 ` Adrian Hunter
2014-12-30 5:57 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 06/37] perf tools: Introduce perf_evlist__mmap_multi() Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 07/37] perf tools: Do not use __perf_session__process_events() directly Namhyung Kim
2014-12-31 11:33 ` Jiri Olsa
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 08/37] perf tools: Handle multi-file session properly Namhyung Kim
2014-12-31 12:01 ` Jiri Olsa
2014-12-31 14:53 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 09/37] perf record: Add -M/--multi option for multi file recording Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 10/37] perf report: Skip dummy tracking event Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 11/37] perf tools: Introduce thread__comm_time() helpers Namhyung Kim
2014-12-26 17:00 ` David Ahern
2014-12-27 5:36 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 12/37] perf tools: Add a test case for thread comm handling Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 13/37] perf tools: Use thread__comm_time() when adding hist entries Namhyung Kim
2014-12-25 22:53 ` Jiri Olsa
2014-12-26 2:10 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 14/37] perf tools: Convert dead thread list into rbtree Namhyung Kim
2014-12-25 23:05 ` Jiri Olsa
2014-12-26 2:26 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-26 17:14 ` David Ahern
2014-12-27 5:42 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-27 15:31 ` David Ahern
2014-12-28 13:24 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 15/37] perf tools: Introduce machine__find*_thread_time() Namhyung Kim
2014-12-27 16:33 ` David Ahern
2014-12-28 14:50 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 16/37] perf tools: Add a test case for timed thread handling Namhyung Kim
2014-12-31 14:17 ` Jiri Olsa
2014-12-31 15:32 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 17/37] perf tools: Maintain map groups list in a leader thread Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 18/37] perf tools: Remove thread when map groups initialization failed Namhyung Kim
2014-12-28 0:45 ` David Ahern
2014-12-29 7:08 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 19/37] perf tools: Introduce thread__find_addr_location_time() and friends Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 20/37] perf tools: Add a test case for timed map groups handling Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 21/37] perf tools: Protect dso symbol loading using a mutex Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 22/37] perf tools: Protect dso cache tree using dso->lock Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 23/37] perf tools: Protect dso cache fd with a mutex Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 24/37] perf session: Pass struct events stats to event processing functions Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 25/37] perf hists: Pass hists struct to hist_entry_iter functions Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 26/37] perf tools: Move BUILD_ID_SIZE definition to perf.h Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 27/37] perf report: Parallelize perf report using multi-thread Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 28/37] perf tools: Add missing_threads rb tree Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 29/37] perf top: Always creates thread in the current task tree Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 30/37] perf tools: Fix progress ui to support multi thread Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 31/37] perf record: Show total size of multi file data Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 32/37] perf report: Add --multi-thread option and config item Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 33/37] perf tools: Add front cache for dso data access Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 34/37] perf tools: Convert lseek + read to pread Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 35/37] perf callchain: Save eh/debug frame offset for dwarf unwind Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 36/37] perf tools: Add new perf data command Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 37/37] perf data: Implement 'split' subcommand Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 13:51 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-12-24 14:14 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-24 14:45 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-12-26 13:59 ` Jiri Olsa
2014-12-27 5:21 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-12-26 14:02 ` [RFC/PATCHSET 00/37] perf tools: Speed-up perf report by using multi thread (v1) Jiri Olsa
2014-12-27 5:23 ` Namhyung Kim
2015-01-05 18:48 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2015-01-06 15:50 ` Stephane Eranian
2015-01-07 7:13 ` Namhyung Kim
2015-01-07 15:14 ` Stephane Eranian
2015-01-08 5:19 ` Namhyung Kim
2015-01-07 6:58 ` Namhyung Kim
2015-01-08 14:52 ` Andi Kleen
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