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From: Kent Overstreet <kmo@daterainc.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com>,
	Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>
Subject: Re: Linux 3.19-rc3
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 03:07:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150106110730.GA25846@kmo-pixel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150106110112.GQ29390@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 12:01:12PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 11:18:04AM +0100, Sedat Dilek wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 10:57:19AM +0100, Sedat Dilek wrote:
> > >> [   88.028739]  [<ffffffff8124433f>] aio_read_events+0x4f/0x2d0
> > >>
> > >
> > > Ah, that one. Chris Mason and Kent Overstreet were looking at that one.
> > > I'm not touching the AIO code either ;-)
> > 
> > I know, I was so excited when I see nearly the same output.
> > 
> > Can you tell me why people see "similiar" problems in different areas?
> 
> Because the debug check is new :-) It's a pattern that should not be
> used but mostly works most of the times.
> 
> > [  181.397024] WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 2872 at kernel/sched/core.c:7303
> > __might_sleep+0xbd/0xd0()
> > [  181.397028] do not call blocking ops when !TASK_RUNNING; state=1
> > set at [<ffffffff810b83bd>] prepare_to_wait_event+0x5d/0x110
> > 
> > With similiar buzzwords... namely...
> > 
> > mutex_lock_nested
> > prepare_to_wait(_event)
> > __might_sleep
> > 
> > I am asking myself... Where is the real root cause - in sched/core?
> > Fix one single place VS. fix the impact at several other places?
> 
> No, the root cause is nesting sleep primitives, this is not fixable in
> the one place, both prepare_to_wait and mutex_lock are using
> task_struct::state, they have to, no way around it.

No, it's completely possible to construct a prepare_to_wait() that doesn't
require messing with the task state. Had it for years.

http://evilpiepirate.org/git/linux-bcache.git/log/?h=aio_ring_fix

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-06 11:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-06  4:49 Linux 3.19-rc3 Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06  9:34 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06  9:56   ` Takashi Iwai
2015-01-06 10:06     ` Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06 10:28       ` Takashi Iwai
2015-01-06 10:31         ` Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06 10:37           ` Takashi Iwai
2015-01-06 10:42             ` Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06  9:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06  9:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06  9:42   ` Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06  9:57     ` Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06 10:06       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 10:18         ` Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06 11:01           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 11:07             ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
2015-01-06 11:25               ` Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06 11:40                 ` Kent Overstreet
2015-01-06 12:51                   ` Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06 11:42               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 11:48                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 12:01                   ` Kent Overstreet
2015-01-06 12:20                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 12:45                       ` Kent Overstreet
2015-01-06 12:55                       ` Peter Hurley
2015-01-06 17:38                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-06 17:58                           ` Peter Hurley
2015-01-06 19:25                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-06 19:57                               ` Peter Hurley
2015-01-06 20:47                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-20  0:30                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-20 14:03                                     ` Peter Hurley
2015-02-02 16:11                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-02 19:03                                         ` Peter Hurley
2015-02-02 19:33                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-06 11:56                 ` Kent Overstreet
2015-01-06 12:16                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 12:43                     ` Kent Overstreet
2015-01-06 13:03                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 13:28                         ` Kent Overstreet
2015-01-13 15:23                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 11:58               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 12:18                 ` Kent Overstreet
2015-01-16 16:56               ` Peter Hurley
2015-01-16 17:00                 ` Chris Mason
2015-01-16 18:58                   ` Peter Hurley
2015-01-06 10:29   ` Sedat Dilek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-01-06  1:46 Linus Torvalds
2015-01-06  2:46 ` Dave Jones
2015-01-06  8:18   ` Takashi Iwai
2015-01-06  9:45   ` Jiri Kosina
2015-01-08 12:51 ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-08 13:45   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 17:29     ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-08 17:34       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 18:48         ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-08 19:21           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-09 23:27             ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-10  0:35               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-01-10  2:27                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-10  2:51                   ` David Lang
2015-01-10  3:06                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-10 10:46                       ` Andreas Mohr
2015-01-10 19:42                         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-13  3:33                     ` Rik van Riel
2015-01-13 10:28                       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-10  3:17                   ` Tony Luck
2015-01-10 20:16                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-10 21:00                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-10 21:36                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-10 21:48                         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-12 11:37                         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-01-12 12:18                         ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-12 13:57                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-12 14:23                             ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-12 15:42                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-12 11:53                     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-12 13:15                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-08 15:08   ` Michal Hocko
2015-01-08 16:37     ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-09 15:56       ` Michal Hocko
2015-01-09 12:13   ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-09 14:19     ` Steve Capper
2015-01-09 14:27       ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-09 17:57         ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-09 18:37           ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-09 19:43             ` Will Deacon
2015-01-10  3:29               ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-01-10  4:39                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-10 13:37                   ` Will Deacon
2015-01-10 19:47                     ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-01-10 19:56                       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-10 20:08                         ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-01-10 19:51                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-12 12:42                       ` Will Deacon
2015-01-12 13:22                         ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-12 19:03                         ` Dave Hansen
2015-01-12 19:06                         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-12 19:07                           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-12 19:24                             ` Will Deacon
2015-01-10 15:22                 ` Kyle McMartin

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