From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755037AbbAFMUY (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Jan 2015 07:20:24 -0500 Received: from casper.infradead.org ([85.118.1.10]:53835 "EHLO casper.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751695AbbAFMUX (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Jan 2015 07:20:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 13:20:06 +0100 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Kent Overstreet Cc: Sedat Dilek , Dave Jones , Linus Torvalds , LKML , Chris Mason Subject: Re: Linux 3.19-rc3 Message-ID: <20150106122006.GW29390@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20150106094039.GI29390@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20150106100621.GL29390@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20150106110112.GQ29390@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20150106110730.GA25846@kmo-pixel> <20150106114215.GS29390@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20150106114842.GP10476@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20150106120121.GB26845@kmo-pixel> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150106120121.GB26845@kmo-pixel> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2012-12-30) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 04:01:21AM -0800, Kent Overstreet wrote: > On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 12:48:42PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > > > > Looking at that closure stuff, why is there an smp_mb() in > > closure_wake_up() ? Typically wakeup only needs to imply a wmb. > > > > Also note that __closure_wake_up() starts with a fully serializing > > instruction (xchg) and thereby already implies the full barrier. > > Probably no good reason, that code is pretty old :) > > If I was to hazard a guess, I had my own lockless linked lists before llist.h > existed and perhaps I did it with atomic_xchg() - which was at least documented > to not imply a barrier. I suppose it should just be dropped. We (probably me) should probably audit all the atomic_xchg() implementations and documentation and fix that. I was very much under the impression it should imply a full barrier (and it certainly does on x86), the documentation should state the rule that any atomic_ function that returns a result is fully serializing, therefore, because atomic_xchg() has a return value, it should too.