From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Stijn Volckaert <Stijn.Volckaert@elis.ugent.be>,
Roland McGrath <roland@hack.frob.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-security-module <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
John Johansen <john.johansen@canonical.com>,
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] Allow introspection to already attached ptracer in __ptrace_may_access
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 19:44:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150106184427.GA18153@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jJWFKK1oJg0iyZtTKSSzXGyDD5B=iA3y7vvyayqhbOP5Q@mail.gmail.com>
On 01/05, Kees Cook wrote:
>
> I'm nervous to add this (or Oleg's suggestion) generally to
> __ptrace_may_access, as it would mean other LSMs would stop seeing
> access checks even when attached. It does seem silly to deny ptrace
> checks when already attached, but it does change the behavior here.
Same here.
> If the other LSM folks don't see a problem here, then it should live
> in the general case. Otherwise, I'm happy to add this check only in
> Yama.
In this case this check should probably go into ptracer_exception_found().
Btw it looks buggy... RCU protects ptrace_relation object, but not
relation->tracer (the final __put_task_struct() calls yama_task_free()
and frees task_struct without rcu gp).
This means that task_is_descendant(parent, tracer) can dereference the
already freed/unmapped parent, no?
And the usage of ->group_leader looks strange. tracee->group_leader can
point to nowhere if the task is already dead. In this case
"relation->tracee == tracee" can be false-positive (the same task_struct
can be re-allocated), but probably this is not that bad exactly because
the task is dead anyway.
prctl(PR_SET_PTRACER) looks strange too wrt group_leader. What if the caller
execs later? The comment says "we want process-level granularity of control",
but this is only true if the main thread does exec.
And get/out_task_struct(myself) look unneeded.
And it seems that task_is_descendant() doesn't need ->group_leader at all,
it could simply do
static int task_is_descendant(struct task_struct *parent,
struct task_struct *child)
{
int rc = 0;
struct task_struct *walker = child;
if (!parent || !child)
return 0;
rcu_read_lock();
do {
if (same_thread_group(walker, parent)) {
rc = 1;
break;
}
walker = rcu_dereference(walker->real_parent);
} while (walker != &init_task);
rcu_read_unlock();
return rc;
}
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-06 18:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-12-24 13:28 [PATCH RFC] Allow introspection to already attached ptracer in __ptrace_may_access Stijn Volckaert
2014-12-24 18:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-01-05 23:47 ` Kees Cook
2015-01-06 0:17 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-01-06 9:07 ` Stijn Volckaert
2015-01-06 18:44 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2015-01-08 10:40 ` Stijn Volckaert
2015-01-08 19:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
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