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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Vince Weaver <vince@deater.net>,
	"nicolas.pitre@linaro.org" <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <Marc.Zyngier@arm.com>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"vincent.weaver@maine.edu" <vincent.weaver@maine.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert 9fc2105aeaaf56b0cf75296a84702d0f9e64437b to fix pyaudio (and probably more)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 23:46:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150108224614.GA5034@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150108165705.GW12302@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Thu 2015-01-08 16:57:05, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 08, 2015 at 04:41:12PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 08, 2015 at 04:34:50PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 08, 2015 at 04:19:08PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > > I really think we should stop this thread. User ABI breakage fixed now.
> > > 
> > > No.  Vince's email shows a more serious problem.
> > > 
> > > The ABI breakage issue was reported before the patches were apparently
> > > merged, but that information seems to have been lost.  We need to
> > > understand how that happened so similar instances don't happen in the
> > > future.
> > 
> > FYI, searching for "Vince Weaver" and "bogomips" found this:
> > 
> > https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/7/11/454
> 
> Gah.
> 
> It looks like the report was made by hanging it into a totally different
> thread to the patches which caused the problem, and which went nowhere
> near the ARM kernel mailing lists.

This went at least to Will Deacon and Nicolas Pitre.

https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/5/15/217

So AFAICT yes, we knowingly broke at least
com.securiteinfo.android.bogomips application.

> At least that explains why people like me who really need to know this
> stuff were not aware of the issue.
> 
> One thing I still can't get my head around though is... Vince reported
> the breakage on 11 July 2013, but the patch is dated 30 August and I
> merged it 2 September.  So, how did Vince know about it to report the
> ABI breakage?  Had it been sitting somewhere else?

There was discussion on lkml at May 2013, clearly marked "ARM:". I
don't see enough headers to know what else was copied.
									Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-01-08 22:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-04 19:01 [PATCH] Revert 9fc2105aeaaf56b0cf75296a84702d0f9e64437b to fix pyaudio (and probably more) Pavel Machek
2015-01-04 20:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-04 20:10   ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-04 20:25     ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-04 20:37       ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-04 20:56         ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-04 21:02           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-04 21:20             ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-04 21:26               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-04 21:40                 ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-04 22:27                   ` Aaro Koskinen
2015-01-05  1:34                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-01-05 12:32                   ` Will Deacon
2015-01-05  4:51                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-05 12:11                   ` Will Deacon
2015-01-05 15:34                     ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-05 16:24                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-07 18:11                   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-07 18:47                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-07 19:00                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-07 19:36                         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-07 20:34                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-07 20:53                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-07 21:15                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-09 22:54                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-01-07 22:14                               ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08  0:05                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-08  0:45                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-08  0:57                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-08  4:56                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-08  5:04                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-08  5:54                                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-08 10:39                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-08 15:44                                   ` Vince Weaver
2015-01-08 16:19                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 16:34                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-08 16:41                                         ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 16:57                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-08 17:01                                             ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 17:39                                               ` Vince Weaver
2015-01-08 17:22                                             ` Vince Weaver
2015-01-08 22:46                                             ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2015-01-09  9:49                                               ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 16:32                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                             ` <CA+55aFwuO2g1S-bY96V28crMWj+dKXWANzbP28JQjBdTg0rV0w@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-07 21:29                               ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]                                 ` <CA+55aFyrNE9qqBR9Khbj=TuAnjA+UzUhNxFz==SqKuiG5q3uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-07 22:42                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-08  0:25                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-08  0:49                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-07 22:24                           ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-07 18:50                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-08 22:49                   ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-06 18:33         ` Will Deacon
2015-01-04 20:22   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-04 20:43     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-04 20:52       ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-04 20:45     ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-04 20:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-04 21:15         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-05 14:22           ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-01-05 18:22             ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-06 22:33               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-06 23:42                 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-07  1:20                   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-07 15:01                     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 13:29                       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-01-07  6:41                   ` Nicolas Pitre

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